From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Sat May  1 08:19:24 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 02:19:24 -0400
Subject: rendering javascript
Message-ID: <r2pc60d3a541004302319uc5d1c484pddc503d462b5c5ae@mail.gmail.com>

for some reason, i am still not able to render javascript as a component.

what i am doing is:

building a structure (a page)
dropping the script into the structure...

what i have found is that it is being rendered as web entities, rather
than straight text..

for example, when i add the structure [1], i get it rendered as [2]

[1] - the contents of the structure..
<script src="http://widgets.twimg.com/j/2/widget.js"></script>
<script>
new TWTR.Widget({
  version: 2,
  type: 'profile',
  rpp: 4,
  interval: 6000,
  width: 'auto',
  height: 300,
  theme: {
    shell: {
      background: '#dddddd',
      color: '#ffffff'
    },
    tweets: {
      background: '#ffffff',
      color: '#000000',
      links: '#aaaaaa'
    }
  },
  features: {
    scrollbar: false,
    loop: false,
    live: true,
    hashtags: true,
    timestamp: true,
    avatars: false,
    behavior: 'all'
  }
}).render().setUser('sergio_101').start();
</script>

[2] - how it is rendered:

<script src="http://widgets.twimg.com/j/2/widget.js"></script>
<script> new TWTR.Widget({   version: 2,   type:
&rsquo;profile&rsquo;,   rpp: 4,   interval: 6000,   width:
&rsquo;auto&rsquo;,   height: 300,   theme: {     shell: {
background: &rsquo;#dddddd&rsquo;,       color: &rsquo;#ffffff&rsquo;
   },     tweets: {       background: &rsquo;#ffffff&rsquo;,
color: &rsquo;#000000&rsquo;,       links: &rsquo;#aaaaaa&rsquo;     }
  },   features: {     scrollbar: false,     loop: false,     live:
true,     hashtags: true,     timestamp: true,     avatars: false,
behavior: &rsquo;all&rsquo;   }
}).render().setUser(&rsquo;sergio_101&rsquo;).start(); </script>


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From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Sat May  1 08:38:10 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 02:38:10 -0400
Subject: comments not showing..
Message-ID: <q2vc60d3a541004302338lcdc14782ued0bd1bfc55dc17c@mail.gmail.com>

one one of my pages, i have a few comments that i wanted to address:

http://www.codingforhire.com/blog/why-rails-to-seaside

if you look at the bottom, you will see there are three comments.

i wrote a comment addressing one of them, and as you can see, my name
'sergio_101' shows up, but there is no text there...

if i browse to that structure, and 'edit' it, i can see that my text
is not there..

once i have added a comment, i went to answer another comment in a
second entry, and after entering my comment, i get this magritte
error:

Comment: Input is conflicting with concurrent modification

any ideas?

thanks!


-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From renggli at gmail.com  Sat May  1 09:35:02 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 09:35:02 +0200
Subject: rendering javascript
In-Reply-To: <r2pc60d3a541004302319uc5d1c484pddc503d462b5c5ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <r2pc60d3a541004302319uc5d1c484pddc503d462b5c5ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <i2r67628d691005010035nc67494a1zcf55fc662ea30feb@mail.gmail.com>

> building a structure (a page)
> dropping the script into the structure...

Upload it as a text file.

Lukas

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www.lukas-renggli.ch

From renggli at gmail.com  Sat May  1 09:47:45 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 09:47:45 +0200
Subject: comments not showing..
In-Reply-To: <q2vc60d3a541004302338lcdc14782ued0bd1bfc55dc17c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <q2vc60d3a541004302338lcdc14782ued0bd1bfc55dc17c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <g2y67628d691005010047o13b9982fu64cf66619f2544d4@mail.gmail.com>

> i wrote a comment addressing one of them, and as you can see, my name
> 'sergio_101' shows up, but there is no text there...
>
> if i browse to that structure, and 'edit' it, i can see that my text
> is not there..

I've never seen such a problem.

> once i have added a comment, i went to answer another comment in a
> second entry, and after entering my comment, i get this magritte
> error:
>
> Comment: Input is conflicting with concurrent modification
>
> any ideas?

This happens when Magritte detects that somebody changed the object to
be edited after it displayed the data and before it got saved. If you
save again it should override the changes.

Lukas

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www.lukas-renggli.ch

From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Sat May  1 16:50:48 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 10:50:48 -0400
Subject: rendering javascript
In-Reply-To: <i2r67628d691005010035nc67494a1zcf55fc662ea30feb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <r2pc60d3a541004302319uc5d1c484pddc503d462b5c5ae@mail.gmail.com>
	<i2r67628d691005010035nc67494a1zcf55fc662ea30feb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <y2wc60d3a541005010750y58f966edg2bc60cb0d84d6ea0@mail.gmail.com>

>
> Upload it as a text file.
>

hmm.. i did just this, and it ends up rendering a link to the file,
but not the contents of the file..


-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Sat May  1 17:27:03 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 11:27:03 -0400
Subject: comments not showing..
In-Reply-To: <g2y67628d691005010047o13b9982fu64cf66619f2544d4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <q2vc60d3a541004302338lcdc14782ued0bd1bfc55dc17c@mail.gmail.com>
	<g2y67628d691005010047o13b9982fu64cf66619f2544d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <r2tc60d3a541005010827icb5d1a93rd324517cad17503c@mail.gmail.com>

> This happens when Magritte detects that somebody changed the object to
> be edited after it displayed the data and before it got saved. If you
> save again it should override the changes.


okay, i figured it out..

i was using a @ in the front of the comment.. as a reply to one of the readers..

i didn't realize that '@' meant something in pier syntax..

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From renggli at gmail.com  Sat May  1 18:23:43 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 18:23:43 +0200
Subject: comments not showing..
In-Reply-To: <r2tc60d3a541005010827icb5d1a93rd324517cad17503c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <q2vc60d3a541004302338lcdc14782ued0bd1bfc55dc17c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<g2y67628d691005010047o13b9982fu64cf66619f2544d4@mail.gmail.com> 
	<r2tc60d3a541005010827icb5d1a93rd324517cad17503c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <l2g67628d691005010923v10188ee3o2d75fb52a1c751e7@mail.gmail.com>

Just put a space in front of the @.

Lukas

On 1 May 2010 17:27, sergio_101 <sergiolist at village-buzz.com> wrote:
>> This happens when Magritte detects that somebody changed the object to
>> be edited after it displayed the data and before it got saved. If you
>> save again it should override the changes.
>
>
> okay, i figured it out..
>
> i was using a @ in the front of the comment.. as a reply to one of the readers..
>
> i didn't realize that '@' meant something in pier syntax..
>
> --
> ----
> peace,
> sergio
> photographer, journalist, visionary
>
> http://www.CodingForHire.com
> http://www.coffee-black.com
> http://www.painlessfrugality.com
> http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
> http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



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From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Sat May  8 03:13:45 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 21:13:45 -0400
Subject: pier: rendering a file contents.
Message-ID: <m2yc60d3a541005071813ne0231414oe15215f712415f1f@mail.gmail.com>

i have uploaded the javascript files i would like rendered in one of
my pages, but no matter how i slice it, it is rendered as a link to
the file, rather than just spitting out the file's contents..

any idea on how i can have it just render the contents of that file?

thanks!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From p3anoman at gmail.com  Sat May  8 07:50:38 2010
From: p3anoman at gmail.com (John McKeon)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 01:50:38 -0400
Subject: pier: rendering a file contents.
In-Reply-To: <m2yc60d3a541005071813ne0231414oe15215f712415f1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2yc60d3a541005071813ne0231414oe15215f712415f1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilci9F_A8DYeA_VFimvT18Xh0HUbGi8j-EdRLdv@mail.gmail.com>

If you rename the file with a .txt extension before you upload it, Pier will
render its contents as text.

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, sergio_101 <sergiolist at village-buzz.com>wrote:

> i have uploaded the javascript files i would like rendered in one of
> my pages, but no matter how i slice it, it is rendered as a link to
> the file, rather than just spitting out the file's contents..
>
> any idea on how i can have it just render the contents of that file?
>
> thanks!
>
> --
> ----
> peace,
> sergio
> photographer, journalist, visionary
>
> http://www.CodingForHire.com
> http://www.coffee-black.com
> http://www.painlessfrugality.com
> http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
> http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



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From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Sat May  8 16:31:22 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 10:31:22 -0400
Subject: pier: rendering a file contents.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilci9F_A8DYeA_VFimvT18Xh0HUbGi8j-EdRLdv@mail.gmail.com>
References: <m2yc60d3a541005071813ne0231414oe15215f712415f1f@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilci9F_A8DYeA_VFimvT18Xh0HUbGi8j-EdRLdv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin836uvDmek3DVt78G2345ankcbAD3nHA2qApSF@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:50 AM, John McKeon <p3anoman at gmail.com> wrote:
> If you rename the file with a .txt extension before you upload it, Pier will
> render its contents as text.

hmmm...

this puts it in a pre tag, then escapes out the html entities..

what would like it to do is just render the html as is, so that the
javascript will execute..


-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From renggli at gmail.com  Tue May 11 08:18:36 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 08:18:36 +0200
Subject: [Seaside] pier: rendering/executing javascript
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin3NyNQ8wMHruz4NE5RH9dQc0jHz2-q-wTYuPLu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin3NyNQ8wMHruz4NE5RH9dQc0jHz2-q-wTYuPLu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimE6x9E6gvzscxFd8Vc6iZFWXElp3UwhQ4gjjSw@mail.gmail.com>

> i have uploaded the javascript files i would like rendered in one of
> my pages, but no matter how i slice it, it is rendered as a link to
> the file, rather than just spitting out the file's contents..
>
> any idea on how i can have it just render the contents of that file?

Could be a bug in Pier, because there is no special code handling for
embedded javascript files.

Please try:

  Name: Pier-Seaside-lr.488
  Author: lr
  Time: 11 May 2010, 8:16:58 am
  UUID: ecfbe529-bd46-4302-9c7c-f156f40c9c5c
  Ancestors: Pier-Seaside-lr.487

  - add support to embed javascript

I haven't tested that code though, it might be broken.

Lukas

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From maarten.mostert at wanadoo.fr  Thu May 13 11:39:21 2010
From: maarten.mostert at wanadoo.fr (Maarten Mostert)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:39:21 +0200
Subject: /seaside/pier/seaside/pier
Message-ID: <1DAEB442-8D60-42F6-BBD0-CC44D535A897@wanadoo.fr>


Hi,

Whenever my session expires I remain with the following error link in my browser.

http://stakepoint.com/seaside/pier

Does anyone knows how to overcome this ?

Regards,

Maarten,



From renggli at gmail.com  Thu May 13 14:46:37 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 14:46:37 +0200
Subject: /seaside/pier/seaside/pier
In-Reply-To: <1DAEB442-8D60-42F6-BBD0-CC44D535A897@wanadoo.fr>
References: <1DAEB442-8D60-42F6-BBD0-CC44D535A897@wanadoo.fr>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimfo0gf47aklGLA5aVZOyvRWYnHXGVMPnuCGjfF@mail.gmail.com>

What version of Pier? What platform?

Lukas

On 13 May 2010 11:39, Maarten Mostert <maarten.mostert at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Whenever my session expires I remain with the following error link in my browser.
>
> http://stakepoint.com/seaside/pier
>
> Does anyone knows how to overcome this ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Maarten,
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



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From johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com  Thu May 13 22:58:50 2010
From: johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com (John M McIntosh)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 13:58:50 -0700
Subject: mobile wiki help question
In-Reply-To: <D45C0CE7-FAC4-4A4A-8E57-E60B56655CBC@thechicagoschool.edu>
References: <D45C0CE7-FAC4-4A4A-8E57-E60B56655CBC@thechicagoschool.edu>
Message-ID: <AAAFC2F8-D69D-43F9-AD90-FCBD6A3E5EA7@smalltalkconsulting.com>

Richard, these are simple to complex Pier based help questions, so I've re-sent your message below to the Magritte, Pier and related tools lists to see what assistance others can offer and or other help text about Pier Syntax people can offer. 

On 2010-05-13, at 1:35 PM, Richard Niolon wrote:

> Hi
> Im a new user to the wikiserver and have a few questions Im hoping you can help with...
> 
> 1) Ive used wikis before (though I know mobile wiki is more than that) and particularly liked the tagging features. 
> * I cant seem to duplicate them here though.  I can tag a child page without a problem.  I tried using the ++ in the parent page to list the children of that page (which worked fine), and added the pipe and display=tags but only the word "children" is returned. What should I do to show the children and their tags? 
> * I also cant figure out the ++ find feature - where and how do I enter the query term?
> * Perhaps easier, is there somewhere I can see detailed examples of Pier syntax in use that I could learn from? A Google search of some of the syntax options just shows me the same syntax page you have up...
> 
> 2) Im hoping to turn this into a task manager for my ipad, something like what is available at tiddlyspot (so I can tag pages as tasks, projects, etc... and pull up a list of them sorted by tag to see what I need to do).
> * Is this something wikiserver can do?
> * where would you suggest a newbie start reading to learn how to code this kind of option if this IS something mobile wiki can do?
> 
> Thanks for any help or direction you can offer on this....
> Rich     
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 

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From pablogancharov at gmail.com  Fri May 14 02:36:27 2010
From: pablogancharov at gmail.com (Pablo Gancharov)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 21:36:27 -0300
Subject: Pier CMS
Message-ID: <AANLkTilbxbWUuuqnX-rMjGBC0kV8Bm8kSbMKkxng548G@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, everybody I am a new user of PIER CMS, and I have little problems
deploying it on seasidehosting.st.

First of all I want to know if it is the right place to ask my questions
about Pier.

Second I apologize about my bad English because I speak Spanish.

Here is my problem:

I have Pier version 1.2 hosted on seasidehosting.st every is fine as you can
see on: http://stblog.seasidehosting.st
but it cannot upload files like images, and I can't see the css style of
pages.

I gave 777 permisions to all files and folders.

I don't know what other info can be important for you to help me.

Very thanks.
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From renggli at gmail.com  Fri May 14 07:33:12 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 07:33:12 +0200
Subject: Pier CMS
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilbxbWUuuqnX-rMjGBC0kV8Bm8kSbMKkxng548G@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilbxbWUuuqnX-rMjGBC0kV8Bm8kSbMKkxng548G@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinwzTsILz1Kjq3OmZD0cHTFXbW6lIYW299cnF_q@mail.gmail.com>

> First of all I want to know if it is the right place to ask my questions
> about Pier.

It is.

> Second I apologize about my bad English because I speak Spanish.

I don't see any problems.

> I have Pier version 1.2 hosted on seasidehosting.st every is fine as you can
> see on: http://stblog.seasidehosting.st
> but it cannot upload files like images, and I can't see the css style of
> pages.
>
> I gave 777 permisions to all files and folders.

How do you give 777 permissions on seasidehosting.st?

What happens when you upload a file? What happens when you type the
URL of a stylesheet?

Make sure that you copy your file-directories with the image, in case
you move it.

Lukas

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www.lukas-renggli.ch

From renggli at gmail.com  Fri May 14 07:38:41 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 07:38:41 +0200
Subject: mobile wiki help question
In-Reply-To: <AAAFC2F8-D69D-43F9-AD90-FCBD6A3E5EA7@smalltalkconsulting.com>
References: <D45C0CE7-FAC4-4A4A-8E57-E60B56655CBC@thechicagoschool.edu> 
	<AAAFC2F8-D69D-43F9-AD90-FCBD6A3E5EA7@smalltalkconsulting.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim2lgjdB3M7p7Ukqivlwam62ovcsk18NKpW1Qqr@mail.gmail.com>

> 1) Ive used wikis before (though I know mobile wiki is more than that) and
> particularly liked the tagging features.
> * I cant seem to duplicate them here though.? I can tag a child page without
> a problem.? I tried using the ++ in the parent page to list the children of
> that page (which worked fine), and added the pipe and display=tags but only
> the word "children" is returned. What should I do to show the children and
> their tags?

+value:children|display=tags+ shows the tags per child. If you want
something like a tag cloud, there is a widget for that.

> * I also cant figure out the ++ find feature - where and how do I enter the
> query term?
> * Perhaps easier, is there somewhere I can see detailed examples of Pier
> syntax in use that I could learn from? A Google search of some of the syntax
> options just shows me the same syntax page you have up...

I don't know if you've seen that: <http://www.piercms.com/doc/syntax>.

Lukas

> 2) Im hoping to turn this into a task manager for my ipad, something like
> what is available at tiddlyspot (so I can tag pages as tasks, projects,
> etc... and pull up a list of them sorted by tag to see what I need to do).
> * Is this something wikiserver can do?
> * where would you suggest a newbie start reading to learn how to code this
> kind of option if this IS something mobile wiki can do?
>
> Thanks for any help or direction you can offer on this....
> Rich
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> --
> ===========================================================================
> John M. McIntosh <johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com> ? Twitter: ?squeaker68882
> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd.??http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com
> ===========================================================================
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
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www.lukas-renggli.ch


From maarten.mostert at wanadoo.fr  Fri May 14 14:26:09 2010
From: maarten.mostert at wanadoo.fr (Maarten Mostert)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 14:26:09 +0200
Subject: /seaside/pier/seaside/pier
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimfo0gf47aklGLA5aVZOyvRWYnHXGVMPnuCGjfF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1DAEB442-8D60-42F6-BBD0-CC44D535A897@wanadoo.fr>
	<AANLkTimfo0gf47aklGLA5aVZOyvRWYnHXGVMPnuCGjfF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AFC1C79E-A05C-4B33-9475-EDEBD2639E84@wanadoo.fr>

This is Pier 1.2 created july 10th 2009 running on Pharo and Ubuntu 9.04

Regards,

@+Maarten,


Le 13 mai 2010 ? 14:46, Lukas Renggli a ?crit :

> 
> What version of Pier? What platform?
> 
> Lukas
> 
> On 13 May 2010 11:39, Maarten Mostert <maarten.mostert at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Whenever my session expires I remain with the following error link in my browser.
>> 
>> http://stakepoint.com/seaside/pier
>> 
>> Does anyone knows how to overcome this ?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Maarten,
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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> www.lukas-renggli.ch
> _______________________________________________
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> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
> 





From garduino at gmail.com  Sun May 16 03:28:00 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 22:28:00 -0300
Subject: Pier latest version
Message-ID: <AANLkTinGY9qIVQbtLCbtmR1N_3t0Ptb72Vq55_QIL4xO@mail.gmail.com>

Hi:

I'm using the 1.2 version of Pier (the official download) to my production work.

But I also tried to install the latest of each Pier package from the
repositores in a Pharo 1.0 stable image but can't get it working (I
first installed
using ConfigurationOfSeaside to Seaside 3.0 and then by hand each
latest Pier package).

I solved some of the problems but prefer to ask here what is the
latest stable version of Pier and were is the documentation
to install it on a Pharo image.

Sorry if I'm missing something but I googled about this topic and
don't found nothing.

Cheers.

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From p3anoman at gmail.com  Sun May 16 06:55:24 2010
From: p3anoman at gmail.com (John McKeon)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 00:55:24 -0400
Subject: Pier latest version
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGY9qIVQbtLCbtmR1N_3t0Ptb72Vq55_QIL4xO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGY9qIVQbtLCbtmR1N_3t0Ptb72Vq55_QIL4xO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikUMr9cj2tU4wJJz7t1s7f8iA8ePC5OckDrf8q3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi German
There is a Pier2 repository for Seaside 3 with a corresponding Magritte2.
There is also a Metacello configuration ConfigurationOfPier2
John

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I'm using the 1.2 version of Pier (the official download) to my production
> work.
>
> But I also tried to install the latest of each Pier package from the
> repositores in a Pharo 1.0 stable image but can't get it working (I
> first installed
> using ConfigurationOfSeaside to Seaside 3.0 and then by hand each
> latest Pier package).
>
> I solved some of the problems but prefer to ask here what is the
> latest stable version of Pier and were is the documentation
> to install it on a Pharo image.
>
> Sorry if I'm missing something but I googled about this topic and
> don't found nothing.
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> =================================================
> Germ?n S. Arduino  <gsa @ arsol.net>   Twitter: garduino
> Arduino Software & Web Hosting   http://www.arduinosoftware.com
> PasswordsPro  http://www.passwordspro.com
> =================================================
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



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From garduino at gmail.com  Sun May 16 18:06:17 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 13:06:17 -0300
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Lukas:

2010/1/24 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>
> Actually there is a Seaside 3.0 one-click image with Pier 2 preloaded.
> I've put that one on the website because it is required for the book:
>
> ? ?http://www.seaside.st/distributions/Seaside-3.0a5.app.zip
>
> Lukas


Two little questions:

1. On this image, it's safe to update from Monticello to the latest
versions of each package of Pier and friends?

2. How I can apply to Pier2 the skin of "Events" present on Pier 1.2
one click image?

Thanks!

Germ?n.


From garduino at gmail.com  Sun May 16 18:06:58 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 13:06:58 -0300
Subject: Pier latest version
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUMr9cj2tU4wJJz7t1s7f8iA8ePC5OckDrf8q3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGY9qIVQbtLCbtmR1N_3t0Ptb72Vq55_QIL4xO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikUMr9cj2tU4wJJz7t1s7f8iA8ePC5OckDrf8q3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinJanuw8dn3QjFbTfS1khGqSaltkax4Ppm39aOO@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks John, I'm trying to install....Cheers.

2010/5/16 John McKeon <p3anoman at gmail.com>:
> Hi German
> There is a Pier2 repository for Seaside 3 with a corresponding Magritte2.
> There is also a Metacello configuration ConfigurationOfPier2
> John
>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I'm using the 1.2 version of Pier (the official download) to my production
>> work.
>>
>> But I also tried to install the latest of each Pier package from the
>> repositores in a Pharo 1.0 stable image but can't get it working (I
>> first installed
>> using ConfigurationOfSeaside to Seaside 3.0 and then by hand each
>> latest Pier package).
>>
>> I solved some of the problems but prefer to ask here what is the
>> latest stable version of Pier and were is the documentation
>> to install it on a Pharo image.
>>
>> Sorry if I'm missing something but I googled about this topic and
>> don't found nothing.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> --
>> =================================================
>> Germ?n S. Arduino ?<gsa @ arsol.net> ? Twitter: garduino
>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting ? http://www.arduinosoftware.com
>> PasswordsPro ?http://www.passwordspro.com
>> =================================================
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>
>
>
> --
> http://john-mckeon.us/seaside
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>


From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Mon May 17 06:34:23 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 00:34:23 -0400
Subject: setting up a new instance of pier..
Message-ID: <AANLkTikE-Y2zWFLBy2IE1BM2I51Le_vfskp9_Q_BYoGM@mail.gmail.com>

i have a current image that i am developing, and i would like to
create either a blog, or a set of content pages for using pier..

this brings to mind two questions..

1. how would i go about firing up a new instance of pier?

2. if i develop all of the content for my pier site in my working
image, is it possible to transfer that data (easily) into another
image?

thanks!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Mon May 17 08:01:01 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 02:01:01 -0400
Subject: overriding form text..
Message-ID: <AANLkTimczeeR4mzaIMEWi0KqX6tqciGsOFhkfiDTMXZY@mail.gmail.com>

is it possible to override some of the form text in magritte forms?

ie..

add something to the effect of: "enter your dog's middle name" or some
other non related text in there?

thanks!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From nick.ager at gmail.com  Mon May 17 12:44:38 2010
From: nick.ager at gmail.com (Nick Ager)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 11:44:38 +0100
Subject: checking user logged in
Message-ID: <AANLkTimGr6mGFRHj7XO0s3c06IgCHAqFHrkxSBcjyBhh@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'd like to flag various pages in my site as being only valid if the user is
logged in. I've an action which creates a popup login/registration dialog
and ideally I'd like to tie to two together so that pages that are flagged
as requiring a user will display the popup login/registration dialog.
Has anyone developed anything like this before or any thoughts on how to
hook into Pier to provide the required behaviour?

Thanks

Nick
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From garduino at gmail.com  Mon May 17 12:56:44 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 07:56:44 -0300
Subject: [Moose] Question about your site
In-Reply-To: <E8B9221E-3D9B-4E4B-9D1B-E37C50C69E29@tudorgirba.com>
References: <AANLkTimqgrwAm07SHKTU6DhHx3JyxDwS9PmTccdOk2Ic@mail.gmail.com>
	<E8B9221E-3D9B-4E4B-9D1B-E37C50C69E29@tudorgirba.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilA6gUx8ikS9VAwtM5nqZgaxBoZSLdaEXvPM2r5@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Doru!

I will try your components.

One more question, this is built on top of official download (1.2)
from Pier page or from
another version?

Cheers.
Germ?n.


2010/5/17 Tudor Girba <tudor at tudorgirba.com>:
> Hi German,
>
> The design of http://moosetechnology.org is pretty simple. I attached here
> the environment and the css. Some further information:
> - /system/components/menu is a page with a list of links
> - /system/components/tree is a component with children type
> - /system/components/sidebar is a component with document type
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
>
>
>
> On 16 May 2010, at 02:50, Germ?n Arduino wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I like a lot the design (mainly of the double menu) of your pier site.
>>
>> I want to ask if this design is open and if the doc about how to tune
>> a Pier site as your tunned yours is available somewhere?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> --
>> =================================================
>> Germ?n S. Arduino ?<gsa @ arsol.net> ? Twitter: garduino
>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting ? http://www.arduinosoftware.com
>> PasswordsPro ?http://www.passwordspro.com
>> =================================================
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Moose at iam.unibe.ch
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
>
> "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle."
>
>
>
>
>
>


From tudor.girba at gmail.com  Mon May 17 20:21:18 2010
From: tudor.girba at gmail.com (Tudor Girba)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:21:18 +0200
Subject: [Moose] Question about your site
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilA6gUx8ikS9VAwtM5nqZgaxBoZSLdaEXvPM2r5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimqgrwAm07SHKTU6DhHx3JyxDwS9PmTccdOk2Ic@mail.gmail.com>
	<E8B9221E-3D9B-4E4B-9D1B-E37C50C69E29@tudorgirba.com>
	<AANLkTilA6gUx8ikS9VAwtM5nqZgaxBoZSLdaEXvPM2r5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B8DE8DF-B889-429B-8729-6B16D4A01CCB@gmail.com>

Hi,

This one is based on a version derived from 1.2, but it should work on  
any Pier.

Cheers,
Doru


On 17 May 2010, at 12:56, Germ?n Arduino wrote:

> Thanks Doru!
>
> I will try your components.
>
> One more question, this is built on top of official download (1.2)
> from Pier page or from
> another version?
>
> Cheers.
> Germ?n.
>
>
> 2010/5/17 Tudor Girba <tudor at tudorgirba.com>:
>> Hi German,
>>
>> The design of http://moosetechnology.org is pretty simple. I  
>> attached here
>> the environment and the css. Some further information:
>> - /system/components/menu is a page with a list of links
>> - /system/components/tree is a component with children type
>> - /system/components/sidebar is a component with document type
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 May 2010, at 02:50, Germ?n Arduino wrote:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> I like a lot the design (mainly of the double menu) of your pier  
>>> site.
>>>
>>> I want to ask if this design is open and if the doc about how to  
>>> tune
>>> a Pier site as your tunned yours is available somewhere?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Cheers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> =================================================
>>> Germ?n S. Arduino  <gsa @ arsol.net>   Twitter: garduino
>>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting   http://www.arduinosoftware.com
>>> PasswordsPro  http://www.passwordspro.com
>>> =================================================
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moose mailing list
>>> Moose at iam.unibe.ch
>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose
>>
>> --
>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>
>> "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

--
www.tudorgirba.com

"Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of  
problem understanding."





From garduino at gmail.com  Mon May 17 22:28:25 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 17:28:25 -0300
Subject: [Moose] Question about your site
In-Reply-To: <4B8DE8DF-B889-429B-8729-6B16D4A01CCB@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimqgrwAm07SHKTU6DhHx3JyxDwS9PmTccdOk2Ic@mail.gmail.com>
	<E8B9221E-3D9B-4E4B-9D1B-E37C50C69E29@tudorgirba.com>
	<AANLkTilA6gUx8ikS9VAwtM5nqZgaxBoZSLdaEXvPM2r5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B8DE8DF-B889-429B-8729-6B16D4A01CCB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJ_fm1jP6mjd8hQA9OVpXCDBmEDM5kSJVKYToS@mail.gmail.com>

ok, thanks.

I will try to figure out how to build the components you mention that
are on system/components.

Cheers.


2010/5/17 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba at gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> This one is based on a version derived from 1.2, but it should work on any
> Pier.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 17 May 2010, at 12:56, Germ?n Arduino wrote:
>
>> Thanks Doru!
>>
>> I will try your components.
>>
>> One more question, this is built on top of official download (1.2)
>> from Pier page or from
>> another version?
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Germ?n.
>>
>>
>> 2010/5/17 Tudor Girba <tudor at tudorgirba.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi German,
>>>
>>> The design of http://moosetechnology.org is pretty simple. I attached
>>> here
>>> the environment and the css. Some further information:
>>> - /system/components/menu is a page with a list of links
>>> - /system/components/tree is a component with children type
>>> - /system/components/sidebar is a component with document type
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16 May 2010, at 02:50, Germ?n Arduino wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi:
>>>>
>>>> I like a lot the design (mainly of the double menu) of your pier site.
>>>>
>>>> I want to ask if this design is open and if the doc about how to tune
>>>> a Pier site as your tunned yours is available somewhere?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> =================================================
>>>> Germ?n S. Arduino ?<gsa @ arsol.net> ? Twitter: garduino
>>>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting ? http://www.arduinosoftware.com
>>>> PasswordsPro ?http://www.passwordspro.com
>>>> =================================================
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Moose mailing list
>>>> Moose at iam.unibe.ch
>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose
>>>
>>> --
>>> www.tudorgirba.com
>>>
>>> "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
>
> "Problem solving efficiency grows with the abstractness level of problem
> understanding."
>
>
>
>


From garduino at gmail.com  Tue May 18 03:53:22 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:53:22 -0300
Subject: [Moose] Question about your site
In-Reply-To: <E8B9221E-3D9B-4E4B-9D1B-E37C50C69E29@tudorgirba.com>
References: <AANLkTimqgrwAm07SHKTU6DhHx3JyxDwS9PmTccdOk2Ic@mail.gmail.com>
	<E8B9221E-3D9B-4E4B-9D1B-E37C50C69E29@tudorgirba.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim6fOx5_YSTxq3vnXwKmWM__F429utMI3w42sZh@mail.gmail.com>

Hi again Doru
9ould you explain a bit more about the different components or point
some doc? - would like to understand how to buid the tree menu of the
left when you select one at top cor example.
Thanks.

2010/5/17, Tudor Girba <tudor at tudorgirba.com>:
> Hi German,
>
> The design of http://moosetechnology.org is pretty simple. I attached
> here the environment and the css. Some further information:
> - /system/components/menu is a page with a list of links
> - /system/components/tree is a component with children type
> - /system/components/sidebar is a component with document type
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>


-- 
=================================================
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=================================================


From renggli at gmail.com  Tue May 18 14:37:09 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:37:09 +0200
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com>

> 1. On this image, it's safe to update from Monticello to the latest
> versions of each package of Pier and friends?

Yes, as long as you stay in the Pier 1 repositories, and update to the
latest versions of all packages in the following repositories in that
order:

   http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte
   http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier
   http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons

> 2. How I can apply to Pier2 the skin of "Events" present on Pier 1.2
> one click image?

I guess that should be doable quite easily, you have to
backward/forward port the subclass of PRDistribution with that style.

Lukas

-- 
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www.lukas-renggli.ch

From garduino at gmail.com  Tue May 18 15:39:50 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:39:50 -0300
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikMhNYs3UIgfiSnkb79FeuDgegnSyGt58BBCLRB@mail.gmail.com>

2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>> 1. On this image, it's safe to update from Monticello to the latest
>> versions of each package of Pier and friends?
>
> Yes, as long as you stay in the Pier 1 repositories, and update to the
> latest versions of all packages in the following repositories in that
> order:
>
> ? http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte
> ? http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier
> ? http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons
>

Sorry, don't understand why you talk about Pier 1 repositories if the
image is built
with Pier 2 ? (> Actually there is a Seaside 3.0 one-click image with
Pier 2 preloaded.
> I've put that one on the website because it is required for the book:
>  http://www.seaside.st/distributions/Seaside-3.0a5.app.zip)

Germ?n.


From renggli at gmail.com  Tue May 18 15:53:43 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 15:53:43 +0200
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikMhNYs3UIgfiSnkb79FeuDgegnSyGt58BBCLRB@mail.gmail.com>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com> 
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On 18 May 2010 15:39, Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>>> 1. On this image, it's safe to update from Monticello to the latest
>>> versions of each package of Pier and friends?
>>
>> Yes, as long as you stay in the Pier 1 repositories, and update to the
>> latest versions of all packages in the following repositories in that
>> order:
>>
>> ? http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte
>> ? http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier
>> ? http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons
>>
>
> Sorry, don't understand why you talk about Pier 1 repositories if the
> image is built
> with Pier 2 ? (> Actually there is a Seaside 3.0 one-click image with
> Pier 2 preloaded.

I don't know what image you are using. The answer is the same, you
just use the version 2 repositories:

    http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte2
    http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2
    http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons2

Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch


From nick.ager at gmail.com  Tue May 18 15:59:42 2010
From: nick.ager at gmail.com (Nick Ager)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:59:42 +0100
Subject: checking user logged in
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimGr6mGFRHj7XO0s3c06IgCHAqFHrkxSBcjyBhh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimGr6mGFRHj7XO0s3c06IgCHAqFHrkxSBcjyBhh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinxbax_vySb1V-DBKCuh5EpMXHeSR6qH4hJXl9-@mail.gmail.com>

For reference, I've solved this as follows:

For pages requiring a logged-in user:
* I've added a method #gotoLoggedIn: to WAAnchorTag which I use instead of
#goto: when linking to pages which assume a logged in user.
* The implementation of #gotoLoggedIn: creates a login/registration command
if "self context isLoggedIn not". The command stores the destination
structure which is passed to the #gotoLoggedIn: method as a parameter.
* If the login/registration command completes successfully, the destination
structure is set in the context.

For actions requiring a logged-in user:
* I've added an extension method #requiresLogin to PRCommand which by
default returns false.
* In #onChangeContext: of my derived from PRContentsWidget class, I check to
see if (aContext isLoggedIn not and: [aContext command requiresLogin])
* I then set the context command to be my login/registration command and
storing the initial command in the login/registration command.
* If the login/registration command completes successfully, the original
command is set in the context.

Cheers

Nick

On 17 May 2010 11:44, Nick Ager <nick.ager at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to flag various pages in my site as being only valid if the user
> is logged in. I've an action which creates a popup login/registration dialog
> and ideally I'd like to tie to two together so that pages that are flagged
> as requiring a user will display the popup login/registration dialog.
> Has anyone developed anything like this before or any thoughts on how to
> hook into Pier to provide the required behaviour?
>
> Thanks
>
> Nick
>
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From pablogancharov at gmail.com  Tue May 18 16:22:32 2010
From: pablogancharov at gmail.com (Pablo Gancharov)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 11:22:32 -0300
Subject: smallwiki Digest, Vol 52, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5760.1274026024.1939.smallwiki@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <mailman.5760.1274026024.1939.smallwiki@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikxzFYYefsHLe-NmNP-qL0Mr9QGVx8rZk1Abx39@mail.gmail.com>

>
> How do you give 777 permissions on seasidehosting.st?

I gave the file permisions using ftp.

What happens when you upload a file? What happens when you type the
> URL of a stylesheet?
>
When I try to upload an image resource, appears a message saying that a
primive has failed.


But When I try to download the Blog to my machine to do some tests, I
discover that the entire blog weighed upper to 250MB!!, because There was
several .canges files. How i do to persist this files into one?

I'm using snapshot persistency method, is that right? or I should use
History persistency?
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From pablogancharov at gmail.com  Tue May 18 17:23:42 2010
From: pablogancharov at gmail.com (Pablo Gancharov)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 12:23:42 -0300
Subject: smallwiki Digest, Vol 52, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5760.1274026024.1939.smallwiki@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <mailman.5760.1274026024.1939.smallwiki@iam.unibe.ch>
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Here I upload some screenshots about my problem.
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From nick.ager at gmail.com  Tue May 18 18:16:39 2010
From: nick.ager at gmail.com (Nick Ager)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:16:39 +0100
Subject: smallwiki Digest, Vol 52, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimKJx13hvslDY_nVZ9YDr2YmwggePwdqszLnTF_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.5760.1274026024.1939.smallwiki@iam.unibe.ch>
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Perhaps the problem and fix in these messages is related?

http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/seaside/2007-July/012941.html
http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/seaside/2007-July/012959.html

Nick
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From garduino at gmail.com  Tue May 18 19:09:35 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:09:35 -0300
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinMLxRMU4RAgLWfaWa4m5EKK-iz_GPz51qTzG-d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikMhNYs3UIgfiSnkb79FeuDgegnSyGt58BBCLRB@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinMLxRMU4RAgLWfaWa4m5EKK-iz_GPz51qTzG-d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil4TaUQUhjmn-35o_059rAMdnwvGSZ5wO5KgGNJ@mail.gmail.com>

2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
> On 18 May 2010 15:39, Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>>>> 1. On this image, it's safe to update from Monticello to the latest
>>>> versions of each package of Pier and friends?
>>>
>>> Yes, as long as you stay in the Pier 1 repositories, and update to the
>>> latest versions of all packages in the following repositories in that
>>> order:
>>>
>>> ? http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte
>>> ? http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier
>>> ? http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, don't understand why you talk about Pier 1 repositories if the
>> image is built
>> with Pier 2 ? (> Actually there is a Seaside 3.0 one-click image with
>> Pier 2 preloaded.
>
> I don't know what image you are using. The answer is the same, you
> just use the version 2 repositories:
>
> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte2
> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2
> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons2
>

ahh, ok now.

I'm using the prebuilt image you published with Seaside 3 and Pier 2.

Cheers.


From garduino at gmail.com  Tue May 18 19:59:20 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:59:20 -0300
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil4TaUQUhjmn-35o_059rAMdnwvGSZ5wO5KgGNJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikMhNYs3UIgfiSnkb79FeuDgegnSyGt58BBCLRB@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinMLxRMU4RAgLWfaWa4m5EKK-iz_GPz51qTzG-d@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil4TaUQUhjmn-35o_059rAMdnwvGSZ5wO5KgGNJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikaQuDZW83C4qaS_ZSV1RnW6mFX-JBhupWkUuT9@mail.gmail.com>

2010/5/18 Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com>:
> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>> I don't know what image you are using. The answer is the same, you
>> just use the version 2 repositories:
>>
>> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte2
>> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2
>> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons2
>>
>
> ahh, ok now.
>
> I'm using the prebuilt image you published with Seaside 3 and Pier 2.
>
> Cheers.
>

I tried updating each package from magritte2 and pier2 and when
try to start Pier got: WAUrl(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #queryFields

As far as I can check, WAUrl>>purgeOtherFields (and #purgeSeasideFields)
try to use the method #queryFields that don't exist, even on the whole image.

Any hint will be appreciated.

Cheers.


From garduino at gmail.com  Tue May 18 19:59:20 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 14:59:20 -0300
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil4TaUQUhjmn-35o_059rAMdnwvGSZ5wO5KgGNJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikMhNYs3UIgfiSnkb79FeuDgegnSyGt58BBCLRB@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinMLxRMU4RAgLWfaWa4m5EKK-iz_GPz51qTzG-d@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil4TaUQUhjmn-35o_059rAMdnwvGSZ5wO5KgGNJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikaQuDZW83C4qaS_ZSV1RnW6mFX-JBhupWkUuT9@mail.gmail.com>

2010/5/18 Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com>:
> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>> I don't know what image you are using. The answer is the same, you
>> just use the version 2 repositories:
>>
>> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte2
>> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2
>> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons2
>>
>
> ahh, ok now.
>
> I'm using the prebuilt image you published with Seaside 3 and Pier 2.
>
> Cheers.
>

I tried updating each package from magritte2 and pier2 and when
try to start Pier got: WAUrl(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #queryFields

As far as I can check, WAUrl>>purgeOtherFields (and #purgeSeasideFields)
try to use the method #queryFields that don't exist, even on the whole image.

Any hint will be appreciated.

Cheers.


From renggli at gmail.com  Tue May 18 20:01:15 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:01:15 +0200
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikaQuDZW83C4qaS_ZSV1RnW6mFX-JBhupWkUuT9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTikMhNYs3UIgfiSnkb79FeuDgegnSyGt58BBCLRB@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTinMLxRMU4RAgLWfaWa4m5EKK-iz_GPz51qTzG-d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTil4TaUQUhjmn-35o_059rAMdnwvGSZ5wO5KgGNJ@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTikaQuDZW83C4qaS_ZSV1RnW6mFX-JBhupWkUuT9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil8-zdebAHkQydYJTiCOfverB_wej7AhDciBysp@mail.gmail.com>

You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.

Lukas

On 18 May 2010 19:59, Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/5/18 Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com>:
>> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>>> I don't know what image you are using. The answer is the same, you
>>> just use the version 2 repositories:
>>>
>>> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/magritte2
>>> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pier2
>>> ? ?http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons2
>>>
>>
>> ahh, ok now.
>>
>> I'm using the prebuilt image you published with Seaside 3 and Pier 2.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>
> I tried updating each package from magritte2 and pier2 and when
> try to start Pier got: WAUrl(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #queryFields
>
> As far as I can check, WAUrl>>purgeOtherFields (and #purgeSeasideFields)
> try to use the method #queryFields that don't exist, even on the whole image.
>
> Any hint will be appreciated.
>
> Cheers.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch


From garduino at gmail.com  Tue May 18 22:09:08 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 17:09:08 -0300
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil8-zdebAHkQydYJTiCOfverB_wej7AhDciBysp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikMhNYs3UIgfiSnkb79FeuDgegnSyGt58BBCLRB@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinMLxRMU4RAgLWfaWa4m5EKK-iz_GPz51qTzG-d@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil4TaUQUhjmn-35o_059rAMdnwvGSZ5wO5KgGNJ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikaQuDZW83C4qaS_ZSV1RnW6mFX-JBhupWkUuT9@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil8-zdebAHkQydYJTiCOfverB_wej7AhDciBysp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikM4TyTd0Pq352FKFZyaxQC9QV3e1slSB62n9Od@mail.gmail.com>

ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)

and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
perform: #loadLatestVersion.

but I get some WAAttribute not found here and there (I experienced
this behavior before, trying
to to the same).

And as a final results Pier 2 updated don't works.


Do you think I should go back to Pier 1.2 or some image with all the
updated tools will be available soon?



And other question, can you point me some place were the main
differences between Pier 1.2 and 2 are explained?



Thanks and sorry by bother.

Germ?n.




2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>
> Lukas
>


From yanni at rogers.com  Tue May 18 22:18:23 2010
From: yanni at rogers.com (Yanni Chiu)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 16:18:23 -0400
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikM4TyTd0Pq352FKFZyaxQC9QV3e1slSB62n9Od@mail.gmail.com>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>	<67628d691001240041i48863ac2l890c63787006e698@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTikMhNYs3UIgfiSnkb79FeuDgegnSyGt58BBCLRB@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTinMLxRMU4RAgLWfaWa4m5EKK-iz_GPz51qTzG-d@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTil4TaUQUhjmn-35o_059rAMdnwvGSZ5wO5KgGNJ@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTikaQuDZW83C4qaS_ZSV1RnW6mFX-JBhupWkUuT9@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTil8-zdebAHkQydYJTiCOfverB_wej7AhDciBysp@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikM4TyTd0Pq352FKFZyaxQC9QV3e1slSB62n9Od@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <hsusmf$4dm$1@dough.gmane.org>

I think "update Seaside to the latest codebase" does NOT mean load the 
latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need 
to load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how 
that's done with Metacello.


Germ?n Arduino wrote:
> ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
> 
> and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
> perform: #loadLatestVersion.
> 
> 
> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>>
>> Lukas


From garduino at gmail.com  Wed May 19 00:48:56 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 19:48:56 -0300
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <hsusmf$4dm$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <867hr8azk1.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimyjZrUq1uqswwfOgnCUdzj3W8dIiZI3_zBCdvO@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikMhNYs3UIgfiSnkb79FeuDgegnSyGt58BBCLRB@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinMLxRMU4RAgLWfaWa4m5EKK-iz_GPz51qTzG-d@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil4TaUQUhjmn-35o_059rAMdnwvGSZ5wO5KgGNJ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikaQuDZW83C4qaS_ZSV1RnW6mFX-JBhupWkUuT9@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil8-zdebAHkQydYJTiCOfverB_wej7AhDciBysp@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikM4TyTd0Pq352FKFZyaxQC9QV3e1slSB62n9Od@mail.gmail.com>
	<hsusmf$4dm$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilF6NjEk7nzS7oURBWYtGQq0u0AIBTQYOA05E53@mail.gmail.com>

mm, not sure, I'm not now on the machine were I did the update, but I
think that ConfigurationOfSeaside30 with #loadLatestVersion install
the latest version of each package.

2010/5/18 Yanni Chiu <yanni at rogers.com>:
> I think "update Seaside to the latest codebase" does NOT mean load the
> latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need to
> load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
> done with Metacello.
>
>
> Germ?n Arduino wrote:
>>
>> ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
>> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
>>
>> and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
>> perform: #loadLatestVersion.
>>
>>
>> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>>>
>>> Lukas
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



--


From marianopeck at gmail.com  Wed May 19 01:39:58 2010
From: marianopeck at gmail.com (Mariano Martinez Peck)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 01:39:58 +0200
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <hsusmf$4dm$1@dough.gmane.org>
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	<AANLkTikQxf2wnn7PYu_SX09n6xwsfk7LDbb0hGYorssE@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Yanni Chiu <yanni at rogers.com> wrote:

> I think "update Seaside to the latest codebase" does NOT mean load the
> latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need to
> load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
> done with Metacello.
>

Load the baseline.

http://code.google.com/p/metacello/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_load_the_last_version_of_a_project
?



>
>
> Germ?n Arduino wrote:
>
>> ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
>> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
>>
>> and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
>> perform: #loadLatestVersion.
>>
>>
>> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>>>
>>> Lukas
>>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
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From marianopeck at gmail.com  Wed May 19 01:41:14 2010
From: marianopeck at gmail.com (Mariano Martinez Peck)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 01:41:14 +0200
Subject: pier2?
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On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:

> mm, not sure, I'm not now on the machine were I did the update, but I
> think that ConfigurationOfSeaside30 with #loadLatestVersion install
> the latest version of each package.
>

No. It install the (moticello) version defined in the latest version of the
metacello configuration. Of course, they be not the last ones.

Cheers


>
> 2010/5/18 Yanni Chiu <yanni at rogers.com>:
> > I think "update Seaside to the latest codebase" does NOT mean load the
> > latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need
> to
> > load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
> > done with Metacello.
> >
> >
> > Germ?n Arduino wrote:
> >>
> >> ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
> >> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
> >>
> >> and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
> >> perform: #loadLatestVersion.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
> >>>
> >>> Lukas
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>
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From garduino at gmail.com  Wed May 19 01:45:45 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 20:45:45 -0300
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilewbneHR_-x5XBTss6NRlZ2JuWd-9uDmflHVap@mail.gmail.com>
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Then I'm a bit confused.

Is not that is possible to mention a package, for example
"MyFantasticPackage" to make that Metacello install the latest version
of it that found on the monticello repository?

Is not this the right way of not mention each new package version, and
be sure that the latest one will be installed with the same
configuration?

Cheers.
Germ?n.


2010/5/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck at gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> mm, not sure, I'm not now on the machine were I did the update, but I
>> think that ConfigurationOfSeaside30 with #loadLatestVersion install
>> the latest version of each package.
>
> No. It install the (moticello) version defined in the latest version of the
> metacello configuration. Of course, they be not the last ones.
>
> Cheers
>
>>
>> 2010/5/18 Yanni Chiu <yanni at rogers.com>:
>> > I think "update Seaside to the latest codebase" does NOT mean load the
>> > latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need
>> > to
>> > load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
>> > done with Metacello.
>> >
>> >
>> > Germ?n Arduino wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
>> >> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
>> >>
>> >> and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
>> >> perform: #loadLatestVersion.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>> >>>
>> >>> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>> >>>
>> >>> Lukas
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>


From miguel.coba at gmail.com  Wed May 19 01:53:30 2010
From: miguel.coba at gmail.com (Miguel Enrique =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Cob=E1?= Martinez)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 18:53:30 -0500
Subject: pier2?
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Message-ID: <1274226810.3641.3.camel@laptop.localdomain>

El mar, 18-05-2010 a las 20:45 -0300, Germ?n Arduino escribi?:
> Then I'm a bit confused.
> 
> Is not that is possible to mention a package, for example
> "MyFantasticPackage" to make that Metacello install the latest version
> of it that found on the monticello repository?
> 
> Is not this the right way of not mention each new package version, and
> be sure that the latest one will be installed with the same
> configuration?

Remember, Metacello is a tool for specifying working, tested, but mainly
reproducible install of a given software package. This means that
someone has tested that a given set of versions of monticello mcz
packages work together correctly.
If you want to install the very last ones versions of mcz packages in a
repository, this can sometimes work, sometime not, depending on the
speed of updating of the package. Maybe you install when the developer
is uploading the 10th mcz of a total of 50 mcz packages that conform the
software version.

If you only want the last version of each mcz package you can use Gofer
or Installer or simply open the Monticello browser. Metacello isn't
geared towards that case use.

Cheers
> 
> Cheers.
> Germ?n.
> 
> 
> 2010/5/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck at gmail.com>:
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> mm, not sure, I'm not now on the machine were I did the update, but I
> >> think that ConfigurationOfSeaside30 with #loadLatestVersion install
> >> the latest version of each package.
> >
> > No. It install the (moticello) version defined in the latest version of the
> > metacello configuration. Of course, they be not the last ones.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >>
> >> 2010/5/18 Yanni Chiu <yanni at rogers.com>:
> >> > I think "update Seaside to the latest codebase" does NOT mean load the
> >> > latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need
> >> > to
> >> > load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
> >> > done with Metacello.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Germ?n Arduino wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
> >> >> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
> >> >>
> >> >> and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
> >> >> perform: #loadLatestVersion.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Lukas
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> >> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
> >
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

-- 
Miguel Cob?
http://miguel.leugim.com.mx


From garduino at gmail.com  Wed May 19 02:02:35 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 21:02:35 -0300
Subject: pier2?
In-Reply-To: <1274226810.3641.3.camel@laptop.localdomain>
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Understand.

I think that is suitable to this way of use when we are talking of
tools that are being developed, then usually (to beta versions for
example) we will want the latest of each package (because lot of times
are fixes or so).

Cheers.
Germ?n.

El d?a 18 de mayo de 2010 20:53, Miguel Enrique Cob? Martinez
<miguel.coba at gmail.com> escribi?:
> El mar, 18-05-2010 a las 20:45 -0300, Germ?n Arduino escribi?:
>> Then I'm a bit confused.
>>
>> Is not that is possible to mention a package, for example
>> "MyFantasticPackage" to make that Metacello install the latest version
>> of it that found on the monticello repository?
>>
>> Is not this the right way of not mention each new package version, and
>> be sure that the latest one will be installed with the same
>> configuration?
>
> Remember, Metacello is a tool for specifying working, tested, but mainly
> reproducible install of a given software package. This means that
> someone has tested that a given set of versions of monticello mcz
> packages work together correctly.
> If you want to install the very last ones versions of mcz packages in a
> repository, this can sometimes work, sometime not, depending on the
> speed of updating of the package. Maybe you install when the developer
> is uploading the 10th mcz of a total of 50 mcz packages that conform the
> software version.
>
> If you only want the last version of each mcz package you can use Gofer
> or Installer or simply open the Monticello browser. Metacello isn't
> geared towards that case use.
>
> Cheers
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Germ?n.
>>
>>
>> 2010/5/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck at gmail.com>:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Germ?n Arduino <garduino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> mm, not sure, I'm not now on the machine were I did the update, but I
>> >> think that ConfigurationOfSeaside30 with #loadLatestVersion install
>> >> the latest version of each package.
>> >
>> > No. It install the (moticello) version defined in the latest version of the
>> > metacello configuration. Of course, they be not the last ones.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 2010/5/18 Yanni Chiu <yanni at rogers.com>:
>> >> > I think "update Seaside to the latest codebase" does NOT mean load the
>> >> > latest Metacello version, which is what you did. It means that you need
>> >> > to
>> >> > load the latest version of each Seaside package. I'm not sure how that's
>> >> > done with Metacello.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Germ?n Arduino wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ok, I tried to update Seaside, installing the latest
>> >> >> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 (ConfigurationOfSeaside30-dkh.148)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and then evaluating: (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSeaside30)
>> >> >> perform: #loadLatestVersion.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2010/5/18 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> You also need to update Seaside to the latest codebase.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Lukas
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> >> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>
> --
> Miguel Cob?
> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki



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From razavi at acm.org  Wed May 19 15:33:20 2010
From: razavi at acm.org (Reza Razavi)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 15:33:20 +0200
Subject: Garbage collecting kernels and configurations 
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikpfdl5TncPkImLwFwA845YrXddGGhRT4yOebSA@mail.gmail.c
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Message-ID: <8bbtuf$205082@smtp.pt.lu>

Hello,

When I execute *PRKernel allInstances* in my working image, I 
currently get 4 instances, instead of one, which are mostly cross 
referenced by:
1) either obsolete block closures as follows:
	[closure] in PRContext>>activationCallback
2) or, by WAValueExpressions with #kernel as key, and aPRKernel as value
	(probably again related to the closure in PRPierConfiguration >> describeOn:)

One of the kernels has close to 2500 references of type (1).

I'd like to know if somebody else has had a similar experience, and 
what would be the most straitforward solution to get ride of them 
(and avoid this situation in the future)?

FYI, I've been systematically executing *WAEnvironment 
reloadApplications*, which seems inefficient, since just nils the 
pointers, and does specifically not handle the cross references 
inside the configuration objects.

Thank you in advance for your insights.
Regards,
Reza

  


From geert.wl.claes at gmail.com  Thu May 20 11:06:07 2010
From: geert.wl.claes at gmail.com (Geert Claes)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 02:06:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Pier Book tool
Message-ID: <1274346367685-2224150.post@n4.nabble.com>


Are there any plans to improve the pier book writing tool? 

Pain-point areas: 
- Images: list available images, replace existing image, easier insert image
... 
- Navigation: next/previous page arrow icons in the header, show/hide entire
TOC on the side 
- Chapters: maybe some sort of drag-drop using the TOC?
-- 
View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pier-Book-tool-tp2224150p2224150.html
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From renggli at gmail.com  Thu May 20 11:29:06 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 11:29:06 +0200
Subject: Pier Book tool
In-Reply-To: <1274346367685-2224150.post@n4.nabble.com>
References: <1274346367685-2224150.post@n4.nabble.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik4N0ZlfKHQArGl4AOXHw78duwndPAusYWqu8f1@mail.gmail.com>

> - Images: list available images, replace existing image, easier insert image

- For example: +value:book.figures|target=/book+

- Replacing existing images is possible by uploading a new image.

- Easier than what?

> - Navigation: next/previous page arrow icons in the header, show/hide entire
> TOC on the side

This is all doable by changing the template (environment) of your book.

> - Chapters: maybe some sort of drag-drop using the TOC?

If somebody implements this I would be happy to integrate.

Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch

From geert.wl.claes at gmail.com  Thu May 20 11:59:33 2010
From: geert.wl.claes at gmail.com (Geert Claes)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 02:59:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Pier Book tool
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Hi Lukas


Lukas Renggli wrote:
> 
>> - Images: list available images, replace existing image, easier insert
>> image
> 
> - For example: +value:book.figures|target=/book+
> 

The Pharo collaborActive book does have this Table of Figures, but clicking
on the image seems to take you to a page where the image is used.  How does
one delete an image, edit the image title, find out the image name?


Lukas Renggli wrote:
> 
> - Replacing existing images is possible by uploading a new image.
> 

I tried that but it just seems to have added another image with the same
title.  The page where I have used the image is still using the wrong image,
how do I delete the old one and replace it?


Lukas Renggli wrote:
> 
> - Easier than what?
> 

Well, how about an Insert Image that allows you to select from the uploaded
images and at the same time set some properties like % etc?


Lukas Renggli wrote:
> 
>> - Navigation: next/previous page arrow icons in the header, show/hide
>> entire
>> TOC on the side
> 
> This is all doable by changing the template (environment) of your book.
> 

I wouldn't know where to start :)  I mentioned it because I find the next
and previous links very confusing.  The position of the next and previous is
not always the same (depending on the length of the titles) and it doesn't
show the heading level.  A simple Next/Previous without titles at the top
would probably be more intuitive and a TOC gives a better view of where you
are.

ps. The edit font on a windows machine is also very small (see attached
screenshot).

http://n4.nabble.com/file/n2224222/Edit_font_on_windows.png
Edit_font_on_windows.png 
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From renggli at gmail.com  Thu May 20 12:14:58 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 12:14:58 +0200
Subject: Pier Book tool
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>> - For example: +value:book.figures|target=/book+
>
> The Pharo collaborActive book does have this Table of Figures, but clicking
> on the image seems to take you to a page where the image is used. ?How does
> one delete an image, edit the image title, find out the image name?

That's what readers of the book would expect.

The toolbar icon above the edit area lists the embeddable items.

For the other questions see <http://www.piercms.com/doc> and maybe
also the guidelines we use for the Seaside book
<http://book.seaside.st/system/howto>.

>>> - Navigation: next/previous page arrow icons in the header, show/hide
>>> entire
>>> TOC on the side
>>
>> This is all doable by changing the template (environment) of your book.
>
> I wouldn't know where to start :) ?I mentioned it because I find the next
> and previous links very confusing. ?The position of the next and previous is
> not always the same (depending on the length of the titles) and it doesn't
> show the heading level. ?A simple Next/Previous without titles at the top
> would probably be more intuitive and a TOC gives a better view of where you
> are.
>
> ps. The edit font on a windows machine is also very small (see attached
> screenshot).

Pier-Book doesn't enforce anything related to the design or
navigation, this is all how your particular instance is setup and what
styles you use.

Btw, you can also use the left and right arrow keys to navigate the book.

Lukas

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From geert.wl.claes at gmail.com  Thu May 20 12:57:41 2010
From: geert.wl.claes at gmail.com (Geert Claes)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 03:57:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Pier Book tool
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Lukas Renggli wrote:
> 
>>> - For example: +value:book.figures|target=/book+
>>
>> The Pharo collaborActive book does have this Table of Figures, but
>> clicking
>> on the image seems to take you to a page where the image is used. ?How
>> does
>> one delete an image, edit the image title, find out the image name?
> 
> That's what readers of the book would expect.
> 
> The toolbar icon above the edit area lists the embeddable items.
> 

Listing the embeddable items would be good, how do you list the embeddable
items?   The link or embed buttons above the edit area don't do anything?


Lukas Renggli wrote:
> 
> For the other questions see <http://www.piercms.com/doc> and maybe
> also the guidelines we use for the Seaside book
> <http://book.seaside.st/system/howto>.
> 

I can't seem to find where it says how to delete an image?

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From renggli at gmail.com  Thu May 20 13:24:14 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:24:14 +0200
Subject: Pier Book tool
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>> The toolbar icon above the edit area lists the embeddable items.
>
> Listing the embeddable items would be good, how do you list the embeddable
> items? ? The link or embed buttons above the edit area don't do anything?

Any structure (page, figure, component, ...) is embeddable. I guess
that when you log-in you get some kind of a navigation tree that shows
the structure, no?

Lukas

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From geert.wl.claes at gmail.com  Thu May 20 13:34:37 2010
From: geert.wl.claes at gmail.com (Geert Claes)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 04:34:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Pier Book tool
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Lukas Renggli wrote:
> 
>>> The toolbar icon above the edit area lists the embeddable items.
>>
>> Listing the embeddable items would be good, how do you list the
>> embeddable
>> items? ? The link or embed buttons above the edit area don't do anything?
> 
> Any structure (page, figure, component, ...) is embeddable. I guess
> that when you log-in you get some kind of a navigation tree that shows
> the structure, no?
> 

There the TOC, and the TOC has a Table of Figures showing the images and
their title but no way to find out the name, which you need to embed the
image no?  I would also like to remove images but I have no idea where I can
do that.
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From renggli at gmail.com  Thu May 20 13:44:33 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 13:44:33 +0200
Subject: Pier Book tool
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>>>> The toolbar icon above the edit area lists the embeddable items.
>>>
>>> Listing the embeddable items would be good, how do you list the
>>> embeddable
>>> items? ? The link or embed buttons above the edit area don't do anything?
>>
>> Any structure (page, figure, component, ...) is embeddable. I guess
>> that when you log-in you get some kind of a navigation tree that shows
>> the structure, no?
>
> There the TOC, and the TOC has a Table of Figures showing the images and
> their title but no way to find out the name, which you need to embed the
> image no? ?I would also like to remove images but I have no idea where I can
> do that.

That has nothing to do with the TOC and TOF. There should be a tree
with the complete structure of the book after you login. Maybe you
don't see it because you don't have the access rights, I don't know.
Please ask your administrator.

Lukas

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From tudor.girba at gmail.com  Fri May 21 09:47:49 2010
From: tudor.girba at gmail.com (Tudor Girba)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 09:47:49 +0200
Subject: Pier Book tool
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References: <1274346367685-2224150.post@n4.nabble.com>
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Hi,

Indeed, the Sitemap was only accessible for admins. It was my mistake.  
I fixed it. Now, when you are logged in as an editor, you should see  
the tree in the footer, with the children of the current structure  
expanded.

Cheers,
Doru

On 20 May 2010, at 13:44, Lukas Renggli wrote:

>>>>> The toolbar icon above the edit area lists the embeddable items.
>>>>
>>>> Listing the embeddable items would be good, how do you list the
>>>> embeddable
>>>> items?   The link or embed buttons above the edit area don't do  
>>>> anything?
>>>
>>> Any structure (page, figure, component, ...) is embeddable. I guess
>>> that when you log-in you get some kind of a navigation tree that  
>>> shows
>>> the structure, no?
>>
>> There the TOC, and the TOC has a Table of Figures showing the  
>> images and
>> their title but no way to find out the name, which you need to  
>> embed the
>> image no?  I would also like to remove images but I have no idea  
>> where I can
>> do that.
>
> That has nothing to do with the TOC and TOF. There should be a tree
> with the complete structure of the book after you login. Maybe you
> don't see it because you don't have the access rights, I don't know.
> Please ask your administrator.
>
> Lukas
>
> -- 
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>
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From razavi at acm.org  Fri May 21 10:24:19 2010
From: razavi at acm.org (Reza Razavi)
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 10:24:19 +0200
Subject: Server side dialog during export
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 om>
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	<hsusmf$4dm$1@dough.gmane.org>
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	<AANLkTilewbneHR_-x5XBTss6NRlZ2JuWd-9uDmflHVap@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTindUrRERExb9-CUPQfNTIoV4y-NkFdGm_TfWExT@mail.gmail.com>
	<1274226810.3641.3.camel@laptop.localdomain>
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Hi,

I'd like to share that since the code in PRExportImportWidget >> 
export: has been partly moved to PRKernel >> exportOn:, now its call 
to #inform: opens a dialog box on the server, instead of a web page 
on the client side ;-)

Regards,
Reza 


From garduino at gmail.com  Wed May 26 13:09:31 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 08:09:31 -0300
Subject: [Pharo-project] Using Pier to produce web sites
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Hi Fernando:

Some links that may be useful to you:

- http://chapados.org/tutorials/pier-design-tutorial
- http://stblog.seasidehosting.st/seaside/pier/seccionpier (in Spanish)

But you are right, Pier need desesperately good tutorials/howtos/documentation.

Cheers.


2010/5/25 Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes at gmail.com>:
>
> Maybe also post on the Pier mailing list
> http://forum.world.st/Magritte-Pier-and-Related-Tools-f115649.html
> (https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki)
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Using-Pier-to-produce-web-sites-tp2229712p2229969.html
> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
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>

From garduino at gmail.com  Wed May 26 13:49:18 2010
From: garduino at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Germ=E1n_Arduino?=)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 08:49:18 -0300
Subject: [Pharo-project] Using Pier to produce web sites
In-Reply-To: <08BC95AA-29EF-45BE-BC65-355DA67047C2@inria.fr>
References: <3D08A13C-6133-4918-9AD6-E4A1A410E3E3@lu.unisi.ch>
	<1274793040611-2229969.post@n4.nabble.com>
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	<08BC95AA-29EF-45BE-BC65-355DA67047C2@inria.fr>
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Yes, I agree.

I like PIer and try to use it, but the lack of explanations about how
to do even simple things is a serious drawback. May be I'm not clever
enough, but figure out how to to somethings take a lot of time.

Cheers.


2010/5/26 St?phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse at inria.fr>:
> Thanks!
> Pier is often a bit too arcane to me :)
>
>
>> Hi Fernando:
>>
>> Some links that may be useful to you:
>>
>> - http://chapados.org/tutorials/pier-design-tutorial
>> - http://stblog.seasidehosting.st/seaside/pier/seccionpier (in Spanish)
>>
>> But you are right, Pier need desesperately good tutorials/howtos/documentation.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>
>> 2010/5/25 Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Maybe also post on the Pier mailing list
>>> http://forum.world.st/Magritte-Pier-and-Related-Tools-f115649.html
>>> (https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki)
>>> --
>>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Using-Pier-to-produce-web-sites-tp2229712p2229969.html
>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>> Pharo-project at lists.gforge.inria.fr
>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Pharo-project at lists.gforge.inria.fr
>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>
>
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