From bruce.haugland at gmail.com  Wed Dec  1 13:26:43 2010
From: bruce.haugland at gmail.com (Bruce Haugland)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 07:26:43 -0500
Subject: Pier2.0 one click image
Message-ID: <AANLkTik35Wq=bx8Jo_u=ZdATkBEP3B7Moj4U0fUUv-pG@mail.gmail.com>

What VM is the one click image running.  I recently tried to install the
image from the one click package but it failed because the image had been
saved using the COG VM.
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From renggli at gmail.com  Wed Dec  1 13:38:05 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:38:05 -0300
Subject: Pier2.0 one click image
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik35Wq=bx8Jo_u=ZdATkBEP3B7Moj4U0fUUv-pG@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik35Wq=bx8Jo_u=ZdATkBEP3B7Moj4U0fUUv-pG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikSSkX+rEJQ989+M83ujzhLKOt4Qj2JidN=3HYp@mail.gmail.com>

It uses the Cog VM r2316 from here:
http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2316/

Lukas

On 1 December 2010 09:26, Bruce Haugland <bruce.haugland at gmail.com> wrote:
> What VM is the one click image running. ?I recently tried to install the
> image from the one click package but it failed because the image had been
> saved using the COG VM.
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
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www.lukas-renggli.ch


From bruce.haugland at gmail.com  Wed Dec  1 13:48:38 2010
From: bruce.haugland at gmail.com (Bruce Haugland)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 07:48:38 -0500
Subject: Pier2.0 one click image
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikSSkX+rEJQ989+M83ujzhLKOt4Qj2JidN=3HYp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik35Wq=bx8Jo_u=ZdATkBEP3B7Moj4U0fUUv-pG@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikSSkX+rEJQ989+M83ujzhLKOt4Qj2JidN=3HYp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikv6X_wXAzNKKQV+NstYYGv1QLVBqozaM+K1G+m@mail.gmail.com>

What image for Pier should I be using that has been saved with the regular
VM.  I would like to get an image running on seaside hosting which does not
support the Cog vm.

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com> wrote:

> It uses the Cog VM r2316 from here:
> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r2316/
>
> Lukas
>
> On 1 December 2010 09:26, Bruce Haugland <bruce.haugland at gmail.com> wrote:
> > What VM is the one click image running.  I recently tried to install the
> > image from the one click package but it failed because the image had been
> > saved using the COG VM.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Lukas Renggli
> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>
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From renggli at gmail.com  Wed Dec  1 13:58:52 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:58:52 -0300
Subject: Pier2.0 one click image
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikv6X_wXAzNKKQV+NstYYGv1QLVBqozaM+K1G+m@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik35Wq=bx8Jo_u=ZdATkBEP3B7Moj4U0fUUv-pG@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikSSkX+rEJQ989+M83ujzhLKOt4Qj2JidN=3HYp@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikv6X_wXAzNKKQV+NstYYGv1QLVBqozaM+K1G+m@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim2bQgMOBd76fyxoeTO+6vQ9UJYi6-MLT=dxHt_@mail.gmail.com>

> What image for Pier should I be using that has been saved with the regular
> VM. ?I would like to get an image running on seaside hosting which does not
> support the Cog vm.

You can use the image from the one-click VM, if you don't safe it with
the shipped VM.

The identical image is also available from here:

http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Pier%202/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/pier2/*zip*/pier2.zip

Lukas

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www.lukas-renggli.ch


From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Thu Dec  2 08:46:32 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 02:46:32 -0500
Subject: adding a podcast model..
Message-ID: <AANLkTikaXP1O7ihWw1PC2n7_EsEQzTVR+eSLqJHDJKik@mail.gmail.com>

i am currently adding the ability to host a podcast with pier..

since a podcast is really just a specialized blog, i thought about
doing it two ways.

one, add the required fields to the blog class. then, i would subclass
PBBlogRssView and PBEntriesRssView and change their render methods..

or two, i could subclass PBBlog and make a whole new object.

i like the idea of subclassing PBBlog, but i don't know how magritte
would handle such a thing..

anyone have any pointers?

thanks!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
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From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Thu Dec  2 09:41:25 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 03:41:25 -0500
Subject: rendering rss feed with xml prefix
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhEX05uS-io5opaZF=o2zc++1BF5j5U5=ZCLUA@mail.gmail.com>

i ended up subclassing PBBlogRssView so that i can override the
renderer on the header, as well as the entires.

in getting the feed ready to go on itunes, i found that i need to be
able to render an xml prefixed notation, like:

<itunes:name>john doe</itunes:name>

or even with attributes:

<itunes:category text="Technology">

how would i use the rss renderer to prefix or use attributes?

ideas?

thanks!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From renggli at gmail.com  Thu Dec  2 11:55:49 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 07:55:49 -0300
Subject: rendering rss feed with xml prefix
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinhEX05uS-io5opaZF=o2zc++1BF5j5U5=ZCLUA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinhEX05uS-io5opaZF=o2zc++1BF5j5U5=ZCLUA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikL5Ss1uri1DKjN-mrC1+YGjvsmWAJNuQHk_bpo@mail.gmail.com>

> how would i use the rss renderer to prefix or use attributes?

Something like this should work:

   (rss tag: 'itunes:category')
      attributeAt: 'text' put: 'Technology';
      with: 'contents of the tag'

Lukas

-- 
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www.lukas-renggli.ch

From philippe.marschall at gmail.com  Thu Dec  2 12:08:44 2010
From: philippe.marschall at gmail.com (Philippe Marschall)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 12:08:44 +0100
Subject: rendering rss feed with xml prefix
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikL5Ss1uri1DKjN-mrC1+YGjvsmWAJNuQHk_bpo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinhEX05uS-io5opaZF=o2zc++1BF5j5U5=ZCLUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikL5Ss1uri1DKjN-mrC1+YGjvsmWAJNuQHk_bpo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikTBEcvyG7cXsrT90R3nf58Dpc04rJkf0KfPsDm@mail.gmail.com>

2010/12/2 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>> how would i use the rss renderer to prefix or use attributes?
>
> Something like this should work:
>
> ? (rss tag: 'itunes:category')
> ? ? ?attributeAt: 'text' put: 'Technology';
> ? ? ?with: 'contents of the tag'

You probably need to define the itunes name space somewhere else as well.

Cheers
Philippe


From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Thu Dec  2 18:35:41 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 12:35:41 -0500
Subject: rendering rss feed with xml prefix
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikL5Ss1uri1DKjN-mrC1+YGjvsmWAJNuQHk_bpo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinhEX05uS-io5opaZF=o2zc++1BF5j5U5=ZCLUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikL5Ss1uri1DKjN-mrC1+YGjvsmWAJNuQHk_bpo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin3WfRXLdUuk2Su-RaPzayfYNOMk4dimxZbG0iS@mail.gmail.com>

>
> ? (rss tag: 'itunes:category')
> ? ? ?attributeAt: 'text' put: 'Technology';
> ? ? ?with: 'contents of the tag'
>

i got this working.. here's where it gets confusing to me.. this tag
has other elements.. it looks like this:

<itunes:category text="Technology">

<itunes:category text="Gadgets"/>

</itunes:category>

where "Gadgets" is the sub category..

how would i add a new entry to the above? like what would be the
syntax to nest those tags?

thanks!



-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101


From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Thu Dec  2 18:38:27 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 12:38:27 -0500
Subject: rendering rss feed with xml prefix
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikTBEcvyG7cXsrT90R3nf58Dpc04rJkf0KfPsDm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinhEX05uS-io5opaZF=o2zc++1BF5j5U5=ZCLUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikL5Ss1uri1DKjN-mrC1+YGjvsmWAJNuQHk_bpo@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikTBEcvyG7cXsrT90R3nf58Dpc04rJkf0KfPsDm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikziKcaJBFsapM_GPVGjQ059qbS48jFf=c+=rj1@mail.gmail.com>

>
> You probably need to define the itunes name space somewhere else as well.
>

thanks, phiillipe..

that was my next question..

i have to add this:

<rss xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" version="2.0">

how would i go about injecting that after:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

?

thanks!



-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From renggli at gmail.com  Thu Dec  2 18:57:18 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 14:57:18 -0300
Subject: rendering rss feed with xml prefix
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin3WfRXLdUuk2Su-RaPzayfYNOMk4dimxZbG0iS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinhEX05uS-io5opaZF=o2zc++1BF5j5U5=ZCLUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikL5Ss1uri1DKjN-mrC1+YGjvsmWAJNuQHk_bpo@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin3WfRXLdUuk2Su-RaPzayfYNOMk4dimxZbG0iS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=H5eDEHAf_-9MAeNwecV8gWmhbkfc9J_ihyWqe@mail.gmail.com>

On 2 December 2010 14:35, sergio_101 <sergiolist at village-buzz.com> wrote:
>>
>> ? (rss tag: 'itunes:category')
>> ? ? ?attributeAt: 'text' put: 'Technology';
>> ? ? ?with: 'contents of the tag'
>>
>
> i got this working.. here's where it gets confusing to me.. this tag
> has other elements.. it looks like this:
>
> <itunes:category text="Technology">
>
> <itunes:category text="Gadgets"/>
>
> </itunes:category>
>
> where "Gadgets" is the sub category..
>
> how would i add a new entry to the above? like what would be the
> syntax to nest those tags?

I don't understand the question. The RSS renderer is exactly like the
HTML renderer of Seaside. You can nest tags with #with:.

Lukas

-- 
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www.lukas-renggli.ch


From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Thu Dec  2 19:50:22 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 13:50:22 -0500
Subject: rendering rss feed with xml prefix
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=H5eDEHAf_-9MAeNwecV8gWmhbkfc9J_ihyWqe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinhEX05uS-io5opaZF=o2zc++1BF5j5U5=ZCLUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikL5Ss1uri1DKjN-mrC1+YGjvsmWAJNuQHk_bpo@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTin3WfRXLdUuk2Su-RaPzayfYNOMk4dimxZbG0iS@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=H5eDEHAf_-9MAeNwecV8gWmhbkfc9J_ihyWqe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim4w---7u5SLtB4T5QGguGt_3s64XsOn539o_s0@mail.gmail.com>

> I don't understand the question. The RSS renderer is exactly like the
> HTML renderer of Seaside. You can nest tags with #with:.
>

no problem.. i found the problem (was with my code)..

thanks, lukas..


-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Thu Dec  2 19:58:47 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 13:58:47 -0500
Subject: adding definition to rss feed..
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=phKQBg_EZht-YkoFd5fb8xEbD_X38ZNM7uMXg@mail.gmail.com>

for the itunes podcast definitions, i need to add this:

<rss xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" version="2.0">

to the podcast rss feed.

how would i go about injecting that after:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

thanks!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Thu Dec  2 21:09:20 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 15:09:20 -0500
Subject: rss feed: producing full (not relative) urls
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=YuuH965dQ2ck6FfHV-XOxtuV9mt+icVehe-nH@mail.gmail.com>

in generating the urls for enclosures, pier currently outputs:

<enclosure url="/?_s=hKOzAr2x1GB6Y5GS" length="8740698" type="audio/mp3"/>

i would like it to be:

<enclosure url="http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com/?_s=hKOzAr2x1GB6Y5GS"
length="8740698" type="audio/mp3"/>

the code that generates it is:

	(enclosure := aPost enclosure) isNil ifFalse: [
		rss enclosure
			url: enclosure file url;
			length: enclosure file filesize;
			type: enclosure file mimetype ].

how would i go about generating the fully qualified url?

thanks!


-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From renggli at gmail.com  Fri Dec  3 00:52:47 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 20:52:47 -0300
Subject: rss feed: producing full (not relative) urls
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=YuuH965dQ2ck6FfHV-XOxtuV9mt+icVehe-nH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=YuuH965dQ2ck6FfHV-XOxtuV9mt+icVehe-nH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimYo5cC-2aL-vaGy-Wr0K_==CArN0apMF+P_Mb=@mail.gmail.com>

See WAUrl, it provides methods to change hostname and path.

Lukas

On 2 December 2010 17:09, sergio_101 <sergiolist at village-buzz.com> wrote:
> in generating the urls for enclosures, pier currently outputs:
>
> <enclosure url="/?_s=hKOzAr2x1GB6Y5GS" length="8740698" type="audio/mp3"/>
>
> i would like it to be:
>
> <enclosure url="http://www.ThoseOptimizeGuys.com/?_s=hKOzAr2x1GB6Y5GS"
> length="8740698" type="audio/mp3"/>
>
> the code that generates it is:
>
> ? ? ? ?(enclosure := aPost enclosure) isNil ifFalse: [
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?rss enclosure
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?url: enclosure file url;
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?length: enclosure file filesize;
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?type: enclosure file mimetype ].
>
> how would i go about generating the fully qualified url?
>
> thanks!
>
>
> --
> ----
> peace,
> sergio
> photographer, journalist, visionary
>
> http://www.CodingForHire.com
> http://www.coffee-black.com
> http://www.painlessfrugality.com
> http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
> http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch


From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Fri Dec  3 03:22:21 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 21:22:21 -0500
Subject: rss feed: producing full (not relative) urls
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYo5cC-2aL-vaGy-Wr0K_==CArN0apMF+P_Mb=@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=YuuH965dQ2ck6FfHV-XOxtuV9mt+icVehe-nH@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimYo5cC-2aL-vaGy-Wr0K_==CArN0apMF+P_Mb=@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin5QztcwuMe3DBM6bVNMxChrEcVrBpdsDv+Dfse@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com> wrote:
> See WAUrl, it provides methods to change hostname and path.
>

hmm.. digging through this now..

does it look like this for all feeds with enclosures? it seems like
this would be broken for all feeds.. but then again, the comments url
looks fine..

hmmm..



-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From philippe.marschall at gmail.com  Fri Dec  3 06:46:17 2010
From: philippe.marschall at gmail.com (Philippe Marschall)
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 06:46:17 +0100
Subject: rendering rss feed with xml prefix
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikziKcaJBFsapM_GPVGjQ059qbS48jFf=c+=rj1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinhEX05uS-io5opaZF=o2zc++1BF5j5U5=ZCLUA@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikL5Ss1uri1DKjN-mrC1+YGjvsmWAJNuQHk_bpo@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikTBEcvyG7cXsrT90R3nf58Dpc04rJkf0KfPsDm@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikziKcaJBFsapM_GPVGjQ059qbS48jFf=c+=rj1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinDSCvRVzV0fv11kYSP3gcyua66erhxvOeHXVtu@mail.gmail.com>

2010/12/2 sergio_101 <sergiolist at village-buzz.com>:
>>
>> You probably need to define the itunes name space somewhere else as well.
>>
>
> thanks, phiillipe..
>
> that was my next question..
>
> i have to add this:
>
> <rss xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" version="2.0">
>
> how would i go about injecting that after:
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

updateRoot: anRssRoot
    super updateRoot: anRssRoot.
    anRssRoot rssAttributes at: 'xmlns:itunes' put:
'http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd'

Cheers
Philippe

From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Sat Dec  4 06:58:35 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 00:58:35 -0500
Subject: pier markdown: inserting breaks into tables
Message-ID: <AANLkTinpJ=XNGpwn9yt8rayqbmWqUT_XwPHb523xJw2d@mail.gmail.com>

i need to do something like this:

| +someComponent+ some text here. the top has to be a section header.
<br/> some text here. <br/> some final text | another column with the
same|

how would i go about doing this? if i add breaks, the tables go wonky ..

i have been adding a {{{<br/>}}} but i would like to do something more elegant..

thanks!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From renggli at gmail.com  Sat Dec  4 11:33:19 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 07:33:19 -0300
Subject: pier markdown: inserting breaks into tables
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinpJ=XNGpwn9yt8rayqbmWqUT_XwPHb523xJw2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinpJ=XNGpwn9yt8rayqbmWqUT_XwPHb523xJw2d@mail.gmail.com>
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Not directly supported, but you can put each table cell into a different page:

| +a11+ | +a12+
| +a21+ | +a22+

Lukas

On 4 December 2010 02:58, sergio_101 <sergiolist at village-buzz.com> wrote:
> i need to do something like this:
>
> | +someComponent+ some text here. the top has to be a section header.
> <br/> some text here. <br/> some final text | another column with the
> same|
>
> how would i go about doing this? if i add breaks, the tables go wonky ..
>
> i have been adding a {{{<br/>}}} but i would like to do something more elegant..
>
> thanks!
>
> --
> ----
> peace,
> sergio
> photographer, journalist, visionary
>
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From udo.schneider at homeaddress.de  Sat Dec  4 12:11:34 2010
From: udo.schneider at homeaddress.de (Udo Schneider)
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:11:34 +0100
Subject: Magma for Squeak Persistency
Message-ID: <idd7l6$ddo$1@dough.gmane.org>


All,

can someone give me some pointers on using Magma as a Storage-Backend 
for Pier2. I've only found references to Pier/Seaside28 in PierAddons - 
none for Pier2/Seaside3.

Best Regards,

Udo


From renggli at gmail.com  Sat Dec  4 12:40:48 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 08:40:48 -0300
Subject: Magma for Squeak Persistency
In-Reply-To: <idd7l6$ddo$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <idd7l6$ddo$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikuTRrKD9tOiGKpuk200_Q24Av8ZTRFqb23FU-b@mail.gmail.com>

AFAIK, there were various attempts at using Magma as a storage
backend, but none of them was successful :-(

Lukas

On 4 December 2010 08:11, Udo Schneider <udo.schneider at homeaddress.de> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> can someone give me some pointers on using Magma as a Storage-Backend for
> Pier2. I've only found references to Pier/Seaside28 in PierAddons - none for
> Pier2/Seaside3.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Udo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
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www.lukas-renggli.ch

From norbert at hartl.name  Sat Dec  4 18:42:33 2010
From: norbert at hartl.name (Norbert Hartl)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 18:42:33 +0100
Subject: how to embed blog?
Message-ID: <50DDE84C-6E85-4633-9929-E672E82F657A@hartl.name>

I'm trying to embed a blog in a page with +/blog+ but that gives me just a white page. Isn't it possible to embed the blog component?

Norbert

From asqueaker at gmail.com  Sat Dec  4 18:58:31 2010
From: asqueaker at gmail.com (Chris Muller)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 11:58:31 -0600
Subject: Magma for Squeak Persistency
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikuTRrKD9tOiGKpuk200_Q24Av8ZTRFqb23FU-b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <idd7l6$ddo$1@dough.gmane.org>
	<AANLkTikuTRrKD9tOiGKpuk200_Q24Av8ZTRFqb23FU-b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim+kPvP=ZnZoWhDZc2mpOk2HdtzdJFtQoppkWnY@mail.gmail.com>

I had not heard about any attempts to do this.  Do you know why they
were not successful?

I would like to reiterate, once again, my support for Magma; that if
anyone is trying and failing to do something, I'd be happy to help.
All you have to do is ask.

 - Chris

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com> wrote:
> AFAIK, there were various attempts at using Magma as a storage
> backend, but none of them was successful :-(
>
> Lukas
>
> On 4 December 2010 08:11, Udo Schneider <udo.schneider at homeaddress.de> wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> can someone give me some pointers on using Magma as a Storage-Backend for
>> Pier2. I've only found references to Pier/Seaside28 in PierAddons - none for
>> Pier2/Seaside3.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Udo
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Lukas Renggli
> www.lukas-renggli.ch
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>

From nick.ager at gmail.com  Sat Dec  4 20:14:26 2010
From: nick.ager at gmail.com (Nick Ager)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 19:14:26 +0000
Subject: how to embed blog?
In-Reply-To: <50DDE84C-6E85-4633-9929-E672E82F657A@hartl.name>
References: <50DDE84C-6E85-4633-9929-E672E82F657A@hartl.name>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=qb5aD7owactCZ29sJBeoEi7xYB+O4GCFJ3t87@mail.gmail.com>

I remember having similar problems and working around by defining a separate
environment for the blog, so that blog is the only component, with the other
components you want surrounding it are defined in the environment
Basically using a similar configuration to the one used in
PRDistribution>>#blog

Nick

On 4 December 2010 17:42, Norbert Hartl <norbert at hartl.name> wrote:

> I'm trying to embed a blog in a page with +/blog+ but that gives me just a
> white page. Isn't it possible to embed the blog component?
>
> Norbert
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
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From renggli at gmail.com  Sat Dec  4 21:49:45 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:49:45 -0300
Subject: Magma for Squeak Persistency
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim+kPvP=ZnZoWhDZc2mpOk2HdtzdJFtQoppkWnY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <idd7l6$ddo$1@dough.gmane.org>
	<AANLkTikuTRrKD9tOiGKpuk200_Q24Av8ZTRFqb23FU-b@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim+kPvP=ZnZoWhDZc2mpOk2HdtzdJFtQoppkWnY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikVbORS5qXae1DrMRzHNtydTW=sBVE_N5uFM-0=@mail.gmail.com>

> I had not heard about any attempts to do this. ?Do you know why they
> were not successful?

You wrote to me in Dezember 2009:

"I will obviously be interested in persisting my Pier sites in Magma.
I have examined the Pier model and grok'd the code related to
persistency, and from this have coded a new Persistency subclass,
PRMagmaPersistency (14 methods)."

I said: "Another thing I should warn you about is that Pier scans its
complete object graph whenever a page is edited, moved, copied,
removed, etc. The same happens when a live search is performed or when
a page is displayed with all its references enumerated. This basically
made my initial attempt of a persistency strategy using GOODS back in
2003 impossible. I don't know, but I guess this might be a problem for
Magma too, when the complete object graph is traversed several times
for every request?"

After a few more mails back and forth I haven't heard anything
anymore, so I assumed the project failed.

There are is a Pier-Magma package in
<http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons> (and a few others that
mention Magma in some commits). I am not sure if they are used and
working.

Lukas

-- 
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www.lukas-renggli.ch


From asqueaker at gmail.com  Sat Dec  4 23:10:53 2010
From: asqueaker at gmail.com (Chris Muller)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 16:10:53 -0600
Subject: Magma for Squeak Persistency
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVbORS5qXae1DrMRzHNtydTW=sBVE_N5uFM-0=@mail.gmail.com>
References: <idd7l6$ddo$1@dough.gmane.org>
	<AANLkTikuTRrKD9tOiGKpuk200_Q24Av8ZTRFqb23FU-b@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim+kPvP=ZnZoWhDZc2mpOk2HdtzdJFtQoppkWnY@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikVbORS5qXae1DrMRzHNtydTW=sBVE_N5uFM-0=@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinawmmNZDnEm2QKkh2gdjUgWawqvgw55cGB21dx@mail.gmail.com>

Well, that project didn't "fail," I just had to move on to other work
and have not had a chance to return to it.

Traversing the entire object model a lot would certainly require it to
be fully materialized into memory, so Magma (or any persistence
framework) wouldn't really allow Pier models to effectively move
beyond the size of available RAM.

But the use of Magma could be beneficial in terms of safety; much
safer than "image persistence" since every commit is verified with
SHA1, and you can replicate and roll-back the model if necessary, etc.


On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I had not heard about any attempts to do this. ?Do you know why they
>> were not successful?
>
> You wrote to me in Dezember 2009:
>
> "I will obviously be interested in persisting my Pier sites in Magma.
> I have examined the Pier model and grok'd the code related to
> persistency, and from this have coded a new Persistency subclass,
> PRMagmaPersistency (14 methods)."
>
> I said: "Another thing I should warn you about is that Pier scans its
> complete object graph whenever a page is edited, moved, copied,
> removed, etc. The same happens when a live search is performed or when
> a page is displayed with all its references enumerated. This basically
> made my initial attempt of a persistency strategy using GOODS back in
> 2003 impossible. I don't know, but I guess this might be a problem for
> Magma too, when the complete object graph is traversed several times
> for every request?"
>
> After a few more mails back and forth I haven't heard anything
> anymore, so I assumed the project failed.
>
> There are is a Pier-Magma package in
> <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons> (and a few others that
> mention Magma in some commits). I am not sure if they are used and
> working.
>
> Lukas
>
> --
> Lukas Renggli
> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>


From renggli at gmail.com  Sun Dec  5 00:00:02 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 20:00:02 -0300
Subject: Magma for Squeak Persistency
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinawmmNZDnEm2QKkh2gdjUgWawqvgw55cGB21dx@mail.gmail.com>
References: <idd7l6$ddo$1@dough.gmane.org>
	<AANLkTikuTRrKD9tOiGKpuk200_Q24Av8ZTRFqb23FU-b@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim+kPvP=ZnZoWhDZc2mpOk2HdtzdJFtQoppkWnY@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikVbORS5qXae1DrMRzHNtydTW=sBVE_N5uFM-0=@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinawmmNZDnEm2QKkh2gdjUgWawqvgw55cGB21dx@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=gUSMA7V9EFjQzpPf5QvzGwi0A5d-FNUj=4QHd@mail.gmail.com>

Of course it would be great to have Magma provide additional safety;
the possibility to easily move between images; the possibility to
roll-back; and maybe even serve the same model from different images;
...

Lukas

On 4 December 2010 19:10, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, that project didn't "fail," I just had to move on to other work
> and have not had a chance to return to it.
>
> Traversing the entire object model a lot would certainly require it to
> be fully materialized into memory, so Magma (or any persistence
> framework) wouldn't really allow Pier models to effectively move
> beyond the size of available RAM.
>
> But the use of Magma could be beneficial in terms of safety; much
> safer than "image persistence" since every commit is verified with
> SHA1, and you can replicate and roll-back the model if necessary, etc.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I had not heard about any attempts to do this. ?Do you know why they
>>> were not successful?
>>
>> You wrote to me in Dezember 2009:
>>
>> "I will obviously be interested in persisting my Pier sites in Magma.
>> I have examined the Pier model and grok'd the code related to
>> persistency, and from this have coded a new Persistency subclass,
>> PRMagmaPersistency (14 methods)."
>>
>> I said: "Another thing I should warn you about is that Pier scans its
>> complete object graph whenever a page is edited, moved, copied,
>> removed, etc. The same happens when a live search is performed or when
>> a page is displayed with all its references enumerated. This basically
>> made my initial attempt of a persistency strategy using GOODS back in
>> 2003 impossible. I don't know, but I guess this might be a problem for
>> Magma too, when the complete object graph is traversed several times
>> for every request?"
>>
>> After a few more mails back and forth I haven't heard anything
>> anymore, so I assumed the project failed.
>>
>> There are is a Pier-Magma package in
>> <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons> (and a few others that
>> mention Magma in some commits). I am not sure if they are used and
>> working.
>>
>> Lukas
>>
>> --
>> Lukas Renggli
>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki



-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch


From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Sun Dec  5 08:54:56 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 02:54:56 -0500
Subject: Pier and Podcasting: for future refence
Message-ID: <AANLkTinrbdA7OZeFpT09pZrnZgV2_hQU=BD=iO0B6gCP@mail.gmail.com>

i just spend a great deal of time goofing around, when what i needed
to do was REALLY simple..

rather than building all my custom feeds and goofing around with the
whole itunes space, it's MUCH easier to just use feedburner to use a
regular feed, and add all the required pieces..

i am currently writing a blog post on using pier as a podcasting
platform. should be up in a few days.. as soon as the site goes live..

in essence, the "feed forwarding" service in pier does all the heavy lifting..

thanks all for your help!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Sun Dec  5 09:09:03 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 03:09:03 -0500
Subject: rending a component's full link
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=qd1qTy0TrPnTDNe_5MArYKRnJLmqZYkeCMkaQ@mail.gmail.com>

if i have an audio file here:

/audio/podcast01

which is a podcast mp3 file..

i need to access the full path in the page for a streaming inline player..

what i would like to do is do something like:

{{{player code here.. href='}}}+/audio/podcast1{{{end player code}}}

where the middle would just render the absolute link..

ideas?

thanks!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From norbert at hartl.name  Sun Dec  5 11:55:14 2010
From: norbert at hartl.name (Norbert Hartl)
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 11:55:14 +0100
Subject: Magma for Squeak Persistency
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVbORS5qXae1DrMRzHNtydTW=sBVE_N5uFM-0=@mail.gmail.com>
References: <idd7l6$ddo$1@dough.gmane.org>
	<AANLkTikuTRrKD9tOiGKpuk200_Q24Av8ZTRFqb23FU-b@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim+kPvP=ZnZoWhDZc2mpOk2HdtzdJFtQoppkWnY@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikVbORS5qXae1DrMRzHNtydTW=sBVE_N5uFM-0=@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <66B8C1C2-694E-4349-8461-257F331C3DA9@hartl.name>

Lukas,

On 04.12.2010, at 21:49, Lukas Renggli wrote:

>> I had not heard about any attempts to do this.  Do you know why they
>> were not successful?
> 
> You wrote to me in Dezember 2009:
> 
> "I will obviously be interested in persisting my Pier sites in Magma.
> I have examined the Pier model and grok'd the code related to
> persistency, and from this have coded a new Persistency subclass,
> PRMagmaPersistency (14 methods)."
> 
> I said: "Another thing I should warn you about is that Pier scans its
> complete object graph whenever a page is edited, moved, copied,
> removed, etc. The same happens when a live search is performed or when
> a page is displayed with all its references enumerated. This basically
> made my initial attempt of a persistency strategy using GOODS back in
> 2003 impossible. I don't know, but I guess this might be a problem for
> Magma too, when the complete object graph is traversed several times
> for every request?"
> 
can you please elaborate a little on the specific actions that take place. I know pier does a lot of traversal. But if I think about it I don't have a lot of ideas why this is necessary. 

Editing does not change the structure. It can create outgoing links that need to be looked up. Moving to me includes managing of children if you move it to another hierarchy. But the incoming links still just point to the same objects. I don't know what is needed for copying. For removing neither it just produces broken incoming links. Did I miss a lot of things I'm not aware of?

Would be kind to shed some light. Thanks!

Norbert





From udo.schneider at homeaddress.de  Mon Dec  6 08:18:57 2010
From: udo.schneider at homeaddress.de (Udo Schneider)
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 08:18:57 +0100
Subject: Magma for Squeak Persistency
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=gUSMA7V9EFjQzpPf5QvzGwi0A5d-FNUj=4QHd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <idd7l6$ddo$1@dough.gmane.org>	<AANLkTikuTRrKD9tOiGKpuk200_Q24Av8ZTRFqb23FU-b@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTim+kPvP=ZnZoWhDZc2mpOk2HdtzdJFtQoppkWnY@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTikVbORS5qXae1DrMRzHNtydTW=sBVE_N5uFM-0=@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTinawmmNZDnEm2QKkh2gdjUgWawqvgw55cGB21dx@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=gUSMA7V9EFjQzpPf5QvzGwi0A5d-FNUj=4QHd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <idi2p1$h78$1@dough.gmane.org>

I /think/ I got the idea of what's involved ...

A few questions though:

1) Is my assumption correct that every change to a Pier Kernel take the 
route through PRPersistency>>#execute:?
2) Let's say I got an complex objectgraph from Magma ... will this 
objectgraph be nilled out at the end/refresh of the transaction or will 
the materialized object still exist in memory as long as they are not GCed?

Thanks,

Udo


On 05.12.10 00:00, Lukas Renggli wrote:
> Of course it would be great to have Magma provide additional safety;
> the possibility to easily move between images; the possibility to
> roll-back; and maybe even serve the same model from different images;
> ...
>
> Lukas
>
> On 4 December 2010 19:10, Chris Muller<asqueaker at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Well, that project didn't "fail," I just had to move on to other work
>> and have not had a chance to return to it.
>>
>> Traversing the entire object model a lot would certainly require it to
>> be fully materialized into memory, so Magma (or any persistence
>> framework) wouldn't really allow Pier models to effectively move
>> beyond the size of available RAM.
>>
>> But the use of Magma could be beneficial in terms of safety; much
>> safer than "image persistence" since every commit is verified with
>> SHA1, and you can replicate and roll-back the model if necessary, etc.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Lukas Renggli<renggli at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> I had not heard about any attempts to do this.  Do you know why they
>>>> were not successful?
>>>
>>> You wrote to me in Dezember 2009:
>>>
>>> "I will obviously be interested in persisting my Pier sites in Magma.
>>> I have examined the Pier model and grok'd the code related to
>>> persistency, and from this have coded a new Persistency subclass,
>>> PRMagmaPersistency (14 methods)."
>>>
>>> I said: "Another thing I should warn you about is that Pier scans its
>>> complete object graph whenever a page is edited, moved, copied,
>>> removed, etc. The same happens when a live search is performed or when
>>> a page is displayed with all its references enumerated. This basically
>>> made my initial attempt of a persistency strategy using GOODS back in
>>> 2003 impossible. I don't know, but I guess this might be a problem for
>>> Magma too, when the complete object graph is traversed several times
>>> for every request?"
>>>
>>> After a few more mails back and forth I haven't heard anything
>>> anymore, so I assumed the project failed.
>>>
>>> There are is a Pier-Magma package in
>>> <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons>  (and a few others that
>>> mention Magma in some commits). I am not sure if they are used and
>>> working.
>>>
>>> Lukas
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lukas Renggli
>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>
>
>



From renggli at gmail.com  Mon Dec  6 18:59:02 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:59:02 +0100
Subject: Magma for Squeak Persistency
In-Reply-To: <66B8C1C2-694E-4349-8461-257F331C3DA9@hartl.name>
References: <idd7l6$ddo$1@dough.gmane.org>
	<AANLkTikuTRrKD9tOiGKpuk200_Q24Av8ZTRFqb23FU-b@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim+kPvP=ZnZoWhDZc2mpOk2HdtzdJFtQoppkWnY@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikVbORS5qXae1DrMRzHNtydTW=sBVE_N5uFM-0=@mail.gmail.com>
	<66B8C1C2-694E-4349-8461-257F331C3DA9@hartl.name>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinbVWS+Kny3ifYmN2C0i-5MmYB4MMhms_nN+zi_@mail.gmail.com>

> Editing does not change the structure. It can create outgoing links that need to be looked up. Moving to me includes managing of children if you move it to another hierarchy. But the incoming links still just point to the same objects. I don't know what is needed for copying. For removing neither it just produces broken incoming links. Did I miss a lot of things I'm not aware of?

Yes, you are right about editing.

Check the implementations of #doExecute in the subclasses of PRCommand.

- Removing needs to traverse the complete tree to nil out references,
otherwise the removed page would stick around.

- Moving and copying needs to ensure that the paths are properly
updated. Pier remembers the path string in references to be able to
regenerate an identical wiki string. This could be optimized and would
make this traversal unnecessary.

- Searching for text or for incoming references obviously needs to
traverse the complete graph. Again this could be indexed, but would
need some work.

Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch


From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Wed Dec  8 20:53:35 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 14:53:35 -0500
Subject: Pier image size limit?
Message-ID: <AANLkTi==Btc4_6ZUPPb6xF8w2udi=x1OEHpsLyXJ4uiY@mail.gmail.com>

i dunno if these two are related.. but it seems like my pier image
dies.. becomes TOTALLY unresponsive at random points..

it SEEMS like it happens when the image gets anywhere near 40mb.. i
know this is totally speculation and guessing. but i was wondering if
the two were related..

thanks!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From renggli at gmail.com  Wed Dec  8 21:08:34 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 21:08:34 +0100
Subject: Pier image size limit?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi==Btc4_6ZUPPb6xF8w2udi=x1OEHpsLyXJ4uiY@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi==Btc4_6ZUPPb6xF8w2udi=x1OEHpsLyXJ4uiY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=3P-8p+H+MP26zA+qj4D4OV+gtF1pUPY2ZcjRp@mail.gmail.com>

> i dunno if these two are related.. but it seems like my pier image
> dies.. becomes TOTALLY unresponsive at random points..
>
> it SEEMS like it happens when the image gets anywhere near 40mb.. i
> know this is totally speculation and guessing. but i was wondering if
> the two were related..

Normally that shouldn't be a problem. I've seen very responsive
Seaside and Pier images of several hundreds MB.

Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch

From razavi at acm.org  Wed Dec  8 21:10:59 2010
From: razavi at acm.org (Reza Razavi)
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:10:59 +0100
Subject: Pier image size limit?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi==Btc4_6ZUPPb6xF8w2udi=x1OEHpsLyXJ4uiY@mail.gmail.c
 om>
References: <AANLkTi==Btc4_6ZUPPb6xF8w2udi=x1OEHpsLyXJ4uiY@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2a60de$moise@smtp.pt.lu>

At 20:53 08/12/2010, sergio_101 wrote:
>i dunno if these two are related.. but it seems like my pier image
>dies.. becomes TOTALLY unresponsive at random points..
>
>it SEEMS like it happens when the image gets anywhere near 40mb.. i
>know this is totally speculation and guessing. but i was wondering if
>the two were related..

Hi Sergio,

I don't think so.
I've much bigger (dev.) images running gracefully under Linux.

Cheers,
Reza 


From renggli at gmail.com  Wed Dec  8 21:30:11 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 21:30:11 +0100
Subject: rending a component's full link
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=qd1qTy0TrPnTDNe_5MArYKRnJLmqZYkeCMkaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=qd1qTy0TrPnTDNe_5MArYKRnJLmqZYkeCMkaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikAXJc0Cu0tWYAZpTD7DwkwEYch3E+H+OiXExEF@mail.gmail.com>

I suggest that you create your own link type, similar to the examples
implemented in the extension package Pier-Links in
http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons.

Lukas

On 5 December 2010 09:09, sergio_101 <sergiolist at village-buzz.com> wrote:
> if i have an audio file here:
>
> /audio/podcast01
>
> which is a podcast mp3 file..
>
> i need to access the full path in the page for a streaming inline player..
>
> what i would like to do is do something like:
>
> {{{player code here.. href='}}}+/audio/podcast1{{{end player code}}}
>
> where the middle would just render the absolute link..
>
> ideas?
>
> thanks!
>
> --
> ----
> peace,
> sergio
> photographer, journalist, visionary
>
> http://www.CodingForHire.com
> http://www.coffee-black.com
> http://www.painlessfrugality.com
> http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
> http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch

From razavi at acm.org  Wed Dec  8 21:43:49 2010
From: razavi at acm.org (Reza Razavi)
Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:43:49 +0100
Subject: MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on: 
Message-ID: <9c0312$49m8it@smtp.pt.lu>

Hi,

In the following method:

MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:

I was wondering if this:

html anchor class: (selected isNil ifFalse: [ 'selected' ]);

Shouldn't be rather like this:

html anchor class: (selected ifTrue: [ 'selected' ]);

Note: "selected " is computed as follows:
  selected := self isSelected: anObject.
Which in principal returns a boolean.

Regards,
Reza 
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From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Wed Dec  8 21:50:12 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 15:50:12 -0500
Subject: rending a component's full link
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikAXJc0Cu0tWYAZpTD7DwkwEYch3E+H+OiXExEF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=qd1qTy0TrPnTDNe_5MArYKRnJLmqZYkeCMkaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikAXJc0Cu0tWYAZpTD7DwkwEYch3E+H+OiXExEF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=se3823vmfi3eJRA5PkwP8wAK2XEWY-RmZcF==@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com> wrote:
> I suggest that you create your own link type, similar to the examples
> implemented in the extension package Pier-Links in
> http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons.
>

already on that one.. thanks!


-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Wed Dec  8 22:55:21 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:55:21 -0500
Subject: Pier image size limit?
In-Reply-To: <2a60de$moise@smtp.pt.lu>
References: <AANLkTi==Btc4_6ZUPPb6xF8w2udi=x1OEHpsLyXJ4uiY@mail.gmail.com>
	<2a60de$moise@smtp.pt.lu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Qo=9HLswFmmitKh+kh0QyZzx_THt9yz1P00ug@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I don't think so.
> I've much bigger (dev.) images running gracefully under Linux.
>

i didn't think this was the case, but i wanted to make sure...

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Wed Dec  8 23:02:32 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 17:02:32 -0500
Subject: new pier website launched
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=h3nNecQoLcVt0APJVO_uf_aAdK2X+MWsDmpSG@mail.gmail.com>

so, after so much toil, we have officially launched our site/podcast..
it is 100% pier, and very much fun..

it is a podcast/blog targeted to non technical CEO/Exec/Entrepreneur
types who would like to use technology only to the extent where they
make sense..

http://www.thoseoptimizeguys.com

enjoy!


-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From carlos.crosetti at mostar.com.ar  Wed Dec  8 23:07:34 2010
From: carlos.crosetti at mostar.com.ar (Carlos Crosetti)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 19:07:34 -0300
Subject: new pier website launched
References: <AANLkTi=h3nNecQoLcVt0APJVO_uf_aAdK2X+MWsDmpSG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BE9F58ADF16D45BBA581F9A1202D6CEE@MOSTAR>

nice work, congratulations!!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "sergio_101" <sergiolist at village-buzz.com>
To: "Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ..." <smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:02 PM
Subject: new pier website launched


> so, after so much toil, we have officially launched our site/podcast..
> it is 100% pier, and very much fun..
> 
> it is a podcast/blog targeted to non technical CEO/Exec/Entrepreneur
> types who would like to use technology only to the extent where they
> make sense..
> 
> http://www.thoseoptimizeguys.com
> 
> enjoy!
> 
> 
> -- 
> ----
> peace,
> sergio
> photographer, journalist, visionary
> 
> http://www.CodingForHire.com
> http://www.coffee-black.com
> http://www.painlessfrugality.com
> http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
> http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
> 
>


From renggli at gmail.com  Wed Dec  8 23:16:01 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 23:16:01 +0100
Subject: new pier website launched
In-Reply-To: <BE9F58ADF16D45BBA581F9A1202D6CEE@MOSTAR>
References: <AANLkTi=h3nNecQoLcVt0APJVO_uf_aAdK2X+MWsDmpSG@mail.gmail.com>
	<BE9F58ADF16D45BBA581F9A1202D6CEE@MOSTAR>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimdK5J5pNwtgsRC-PDHueHrmUmcchbMa3pi1keM@mail.gmail.com>

Very cool, I added the website to the known Pier sites.

Lukas

On 8 December 2010 23:07, Carlos Crosetti <carlos.crosetti at mostar.com.ar> wrote:
> nice work, congratulations!!
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "sergio_101"
> <sergiolist at village-buzz.com>
> To: "Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ..." <smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 7:02 PM
> Subject: new pier website launched
>
>
>> so, after so much toil, we have officially launched our site/podcast..
>> it is 100% pier, and very much fun..
>>
>> it is a podcast/blog targeted to non technical CEO/Exec/Entrepreneur
>> types who would like to use technology only to the extent where they
>> make sense..
>>
>> http://www.thoseoptimizeguys.com
>>
>> enjoy!
>>
>>
>> --
>> ----
>> peace,
>> sergio
>> photographer, journalist, visionary
>>
>> http://www.CodingForHire.com
>> http://www.coffee-black.com
>> http://www.painlessfrugality.com
>> http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
>> http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
>> _______________________________________________
>> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch

From renggli at gmail.com  Thu Dec  9 08:51:35 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 08:51:35 +0100
Subject: MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:
In-Reply-To: <9c0312$49m8it@smtp.pt.lu>
References: <9c0312$49m8it@smtp.pt.lu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinGfGTESZYB181S1SnDBtm-m5Bhs1RLNOUsqv0W@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, that looks like a bug. Can you commit the change?

Lukas

On 8 December 2010 21:43, Reza Razavi <razavi at acm.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In the following method:
>
> MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:
>
> I was wondering if this:
>
> html anchor class: (selected isNil ifFalse: [ 'selected' ]);
>
> Shouldn't be rather like this:
>
> html anchor class: (selected ifTrue: [ 'selected' ]);
>
> Note: "selected " is computed as follows:
> ?selected := self isSelected: anObject.
> Which in principal returns a boolean.
>
> Regards,
> Reza
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch


From razavi at acm.org  Thu Dec  9 09:25:32 2010
From: razavi at acm.org (Reza Razavi)
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 09:25:32 +0100
Subject: MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGfGTESZYB181S1SnDBtm-m5Bhs1RLNOUsqv0W@mail.gmail.c
 om>
References: <9c0312$49m8it@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTinGfGTESZYB181S1SnDBtm-m5Bhs1RLNOUsqv0W@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ae3f9f$418vmc@smtp.pt.lu>

At 08:51 09/12/2010, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>Can you commit the change?

Hi Lukas,

Just tried it, but seems authorization is required.

Cheers,
/Reza 


From renggli at gmail.com  Thu Dec  9 09:32:24 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 09:32:24 +0100
Subject: MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:
In-Reply-To: <ae3f9f$418vmc@smtp.pt.lu>
References: <9c0312$49m8it@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTinGfGTESZYB181S1SnDBtm-m5Bhs1RLNOUsqv0W@mail.gmail.com>
	<ae3f9f$418vmc@smtp.pt.lu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinmtMNM=KiyFX1XiySAiV3YfrKhxnPJFvuVQD7K@mail.gmail.com>

If you register on source.lukas-renggli.ch, I can add you to the
groups of Magritte and Pier.

Lukas

On 9 December 2010 09:25, Reza Razavi <razavi at acm.org> wrote:
> At 08:51 09/12/2010, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>
>> Can you commit the change?
>
> Hi Lukas,
>
> Just tried it, but seems authorization is required.
>
> Cheers,
> /Reza
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch

From renggli at gmail.com  Thu Dec  9 09:32:24 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 09:32:24 +0100
Subject: MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:
In-Reply-To: <ae3f9f$418vmc@smtp.pt.lu>
References: <9c0312$49m8it@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTinGfGTESZYB181S1SnDBtm-m5Bhs1RLNOUsqv0W@mail.gmail.com>
	<ae3f9f$418vmc@smtp.pt.lu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinmtMNM=KiyFX1XiySAiV3YfrKhxnPJFvuVQD7K@mail.gmail.com>

If you register on source.lukas-renggli.ch, I can add you to the
groups of Magritte and Pier.

Lukas

On 9 December 2010 09:25, Reza Razavi <razavi at acm.org> wrote:
> At 08:51 09/12/2010, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>
>> Can you commit the change?
>
> Hi Lukas,
>
> Just tried it, but seems authorization is required.
>
> Cheers,
> /Reza
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch

From renggli at gmail.com  Thu Dec  9 09:32:24 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 09:32:24 +0100
Subject: MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:
In-Reply-To: <ae3f9f$418vmc@smtp.pt.lu>
References: <9c0312$49m8it@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTinGfGTESZYB181S1SnDBtm-m5Bhs1RLNOUsqv0W@mail.gmail.com>
	<ae3f9f$418vmc@smtp.pt.lu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinmtMNM=KiyFX1XiySAiV3YfrKhxnPJFvuVQD7K@mail.gmail.com>

If you register on source.lukas-renggli.ch, I can add you to the
groups of Magritte and Pier.

Lukas

On 9 December 2010 09:25, Reza Razavi <razavi at acm.org> wrote:
> At 08:51 09/12/2010, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>
>> Can you commit the change?
>
> Hi Lukas,
>
> Just tried it, but seems authorization is required.
>
> Cheers,
> /Reza
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch

From razavi at acm.org  Thu Dec  9 09:40:03 2010
From: razavi at acm.org (Reza Razavi)
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 09:40:03 +0100
Subject: MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinmtMNM=KiyFX1XiySAiV3YfrKhxnPJFvuVQD7K@mail.gmail.c
 om>
References: <9c0312$49m8it@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTinGfGTESZYB181S1SnDBtm-m5Bhs1RLNOUsqv0W@mail.gmail.com>
	<ae3f9f$418vmc@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTinmtMNM=KiyFX1XiySAiV3YfrKhxnPJFvuVQD7K@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e69f63$m228f@smtp.pt.lu>

At 09:32 09/12/2010, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>If you register on source.lukas-renggli.ch,

Done.


From renggli at gmail.com  Thu Dec  9 09:43:16 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 09:43:16 +0100
Subject: MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:
In-Reply-To: <e69f63$m228f@smtp.pt.lu>
References: <9c0312$49m8it@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTinGfGTESZYB181S1SnDBtm-m5Bhs1RLNOUsqv0W@mail.gmail.com>
	<ae3f9f$418vmc@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTinmtMNM=KiyFX1XiySAiV3YfrKhxnPJFvuVQD7K@mail.gmail.com>
	<e69f63$m228f@smtp.pt.lu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=RHxD+4POkW10nG8Bwj25ty5YXqR3RoRdK7vw-@mail.gmail.com>

I've added you to the groups.

On 9 December 2010 09:40, Reza Razavi <razavi at acm.org> wrote:
> At 09:32 09/12/2010, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>>
>> If you register on source.lukas-renggli.ch,
>
> Done.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch

From razavi at acm.org  Thu Dec  9 10:06:35 2010
From: razavi at acm.org (Reza Razavi)
Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:06:35 +0100
Subject: MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=RHxD+4POkW10nG8Bwj25ty5YXqR3RoRdK7vw-@mail.gmail.c
 om>
References: <9c0312$49m8it@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTinGfGTESZYB181S1SnDBtm-m5Bhs1RLNOUsqv0W@mail.gmail.com>
	<ae3f9f$418vmc@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTinmtMNM=KiyFX1XiySAiV3YfrKhxnPJFvuVQD7K@mail.gmail.com>
	<e69f63$m228f@smtp.pt.lu>
	<AANLkTi=RHxD+4POkW10nG8Bwj25ty5YXqR3RoRdK7vw-@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9c0312$49qdhj@smtp.pt.lu>

At 09:43 09/12/2010, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>I've added you to the groups.

Thanks Lukas!
The following commit was successful.
/Reza

Name: Magritte-Seaside-razavi_acm_org.343
Author: razavi at acm.org
Time: 9 December 2010, 10:02:56 am
UUID: 2701011f-d24e-f14a-9e10-512f2500ef16
Ancestors: Magritte-Seaside-lr.342

In this method:

MASelectionColumn >> renderCellLinkContent:on:

changed the following:

html anchor class: (selected isNil ifFalse: [ 'selected' ]);

to:

html anchor class: (selected ifTrue: [ 'selected' ]);



From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Thu Dec 16 23:29:37 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 17:29:37 -0500
Subject: pier image is moving SLOW
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6c1iSnq01EJnj=HyejK8vN8LMMd2E2R02HUnQ@mail.gmail.com>

my pier image moves VERY slow now during any updates (writing a new
article or comment..)

i can get to the status page, but even that moves REALLY slow..

is there something i should look for in the /status page to see what
is causing the problem?

thanks!


-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Fri Dec 17 16:40:46 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 10:40:46 -0500
Subject: changing the session timeout
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=h6qDaVk6iD+oXM2VEwQAsn+bcmAx1bRbgnL9Q@mail.gmail.com>

i am finding the following problem..

i get into the website, and i start adding an article.. this might
take a little while. say half an hour to an hour..

when i finally hit "save" the article comes back as blank. i am
guessing that the session has expired while this was going on..

if i hit "back" i can get back to the text of the article and
copy/paste it back in.. but i don't like having to rely on this..

thoughts/ideas?

thanks!

-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From renggli at gmail.com  Fri Dec 17 16:45:28 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:45:28 +0100
Subject: pier image is moving SLOW
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik6c1iSnq01EJnj=HyejK8vN8LMMd2E2R02HUnQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik6c1iSnq01EJnj=HyejK8vN8LMMd2E2R02HUnQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimXW7O8dCMgoUY9XwQnpu0GC6fy_oHKc1zsFA43@mail.gmail.com>

Do you have a high load on your image?

Do you have expensive widgets on your page (e.g. the incoming references)?

Do you serve files through the image?

This might be all causes for an image to run slow.

Lukas

On 16 December 2010 23:29, sergio_101 <sergiolist at village-buzz.com> wrote:
> my pier image moves VERY slow now during any updates (writing a new
> article or comment..)
>
> i can get to the status page, but even that moves REALLY slow..
>
> is there something i should look for in the /status page to see what
> is causing the problem?
>
> thanks!
>
>
> --
> ----
> peace,
> sergio
> photographer, journalist, visionary
>
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From renggli at gmail.com  Fri Dec 17 16:46:27 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:46:27 +0100
Subject: changing the session timeout
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=h6qDaVk6iD+oXM2VEwQAsn+bcmAx1bRbgnL9Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=h6qDaVk6iD+oXM2VEwQAsn+bcmAx1bRbgnL9Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimLaQotAv_S5zu_S-3y43wB+LQh8WiemQUK_OvK@mail.gmail.com>

> i am finding the following problem..
>
> i get into the website, and i start adding an article.. this might
> take a little while. say half an hour to an hour..

Now this is really not normal, see my other mail for possible causes.

Lukas

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From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Fri Dec 17 17:29:30 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:29:30 -0500
Subject: pier image is moving SLOW
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimXW7O8dCMgoUY9XwQnpu0GC6fy_oHKc1zsFA43@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik6c1iSnq01EJnj=HyejK8vN8LMMd2E2R02HUnQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimXW7O8dCMgoUY9XwQnpu0GC6fy_oHKc1zsFA43@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimydGtpwVEx99PCiLq-oWSGwUq7c0mn6=9X4rb-@mail.gmail.com>

> Do you have a high load on your image?
>

no, but i am working like CRAZY to get there..

> Do you have expensive widgets on your page (e.g. the incoming references)?
>

not really.. you can see it here:

www.thoseoptimizeguys.com

nothing too sketchy going on..

> Do you serve files through the image?
>

no, files are served through apache..





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From sergiolist at village-buzz.com  Fri Dec 17 17:52:42 2010
From: sergiolist at village-buzz.com (sergio_101)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:52:42 -0500
Subject: pier image is moving SLOW
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimydGtpwVEx99PCiLq-oWSGwUq7c0mn6=9X4rb-@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik6c1iSnq01EJnj=HyejK8vN8LMMd2E2R02HUnQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimXW7O8dCMgoUY9XwQnpu0GC6fy_oHKc1zsFA43@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimydGtpwVEx99PCiLq-oWSGwUq7c0mn6=9X4rb-@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=_guMKd4hyV_tvTXF9mgtT5TDM24VHinqVEx2f@mail.gmail.com>

>
>> Do you have expensive widgets on your page (e.g. the incoming references)?
>>


i may have found the problem...

seems as though the twitterfeed component is causing the problem..

i installed it in the past, but haven't messed with it since.. it
seemed broken..

it might be using an old authentication scheme or something..  i might
take a look at it at some point, but as of now, i just deleted it..

thanks!



-- 
----
peace,
sergio
photographer, journalist, visionary

http://www.CodingForHire.com
http://www.coffee-black.com
http://www.painlessfrugality.com
http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
http://www.facebook.com/sergio101

From renggli at gmail.com  Fri Dec 17 18:40:12 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 18:40:12 +0100
Subject: pier image is moving SLOW
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=_guMKd4hyV_tvTXF9mgtT5TDM24VHinqVEx2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik6c1iSnq01EJnj=HyejK8vN8LMMd2E2R02HUnQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimXW7O8dCMgoUY9XwQnpu0GC6fy_oHKc1zsFA43@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimydGtpwVEx99PCiLq-oWSGwUq7c0mn6=9X4rb-@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=_guMKd4hyV_tvTXF9mgtT5TDM24VHinqVEx2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimoYM1rdS8sCViO_R6vkEP1uDMdqGu+i=Z6ag05@mail.gmail.com>

Indeed, the Twitter component doesn't work anymore since Twitter
changed their authentication scheme.

Lukas

On 17 December 2010 17:52, sergio_101 <sergiolist at village-buzz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do you have expensive widgets on your page (e.g. the incoming references)?
>>>
>
>
> i may have found the problem...
>
> seems as though the twitterfeed component is causing the problem..
>
> i installed it in the past, but haven't messed with it since.. it
> seemed broken..
>
> it might be using an old authentication scheme or something.. ?i might
> take a look at it at some point, but as of now, i just deleted it..
>
> thanks!
>
>
>
> --
> ----
> peace,
> sergio
> photographer, journalist, visionary
>
> http://www.CodingForHire.com
> http://www.coffee-black.com
> http://www.painlessfrugality.com
> http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101
> http://www.facebook.com/sergio101
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
>



-- 
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www.lukas-renggli.ch


From renggli at gmail.com  Mon Dec 27 11:31:01 2010
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:31:01 +0100
Subject: source.lukas-renggli.ch offline
Message-ID: <AANLkTikg+cezanR+dZaasu7TSF-=UEBanoOsrqs=Fa_e@mail.gmail.com>

source.lukas-renggli.ch (Magritte, Pier, OmniBrowser, PetitParser,
Helvetia, ...) will be offline in the next couple of days as I am
moving the server to a new location. If you need to load code from
these repositories during that time please create a mirror in the next
12 hours.

Happy new year!

Lukas

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From philippe.marschall at gmail.com  Mon Dec 27 14:02:48 2010
From: philippe.marschall at gmail.com (Philippe Marschall)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:02:48 +0100
Subject: source.lukas-renggli.ch offline
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikg+cezanR+dZaasu7TSF-=UEBanoOsrqs=Fa_e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikg+cezanR+dZaasu7TSF-=UEBanoOsrqs=Fa_e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim0SH=-cA2dE9NAb5FZ9KiOCy35Tni=MgQ0u_EF@mail.gmail.com>

2010/12/27 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
> source.lukas-renggli.ch (Magritte, Pier, OmniBrowser, PetitParser,
> Helvetia, ...) will be offline in the next couple of days as I am
> moving the server to a new location. If you need to load code from
> these repositories during that time please create a mirror in the next
> 12 hours.

The last time you did this WAFileLibrary resulted, I wonder what
happens this time ;-)

Cheers
Philippe

From tudor.girba at gmail.com  Tue Dec 28 01:01:55 2010
From: tudor.girba at gmail.com (Tudor Girba)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 01:01:55 +0100
Subject: source.lukas-renggli.ch offline
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim0SH=-cA2dE9NAb5FZ9KiOCy35Tni=MgQ0u_EF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikg+cezanR+dZaasu7TSF-=UEBanoOsrqs=Fa_e@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim0SH=-cA2dE9NAb5FZ9KiOCy35Tni=MgQ0u_EF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FB8B130C-DE6D-497B-927F-1C078D689737@gmail.com>

Hi Lukas,

Thanks for letting us know.

Cheers,
Doru


On 27 Dec 2010, at 14:02, Philippe Marschall wrote:

> 2010/12/27 Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com>:
>> source.lukas-renggli.ch (Magritte, Pier, OmniBrowser, PetitParser,
>> Helvetia, ...) will be offline in the next couple of days as I am
>> moving the server to a new location. If you need to load code from
>> these repositories during that time please create a mirror in the next
>> 12 hours.
> 
> The last time you did this WAFileLibrary resulted, I wonder what
> happens this time ;-)
> 
> Cheers
> Philippe
> _______________________________________________
> Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

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