From squeakman at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 15:54:06 2008 From: squeakman at gmail.com (Squeaker) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:54:06 -0400 Subject: Customizing Pier In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Tudor Girba wrote: > Go to the Commands widget and then access Settings. This will allow > you to put away the View from the list of available commands. > Thanks for the help. I was able to do what you suggested but what I wanted to accomplish is to have the entire Views box on the sidebar not appear. Maybe I can pose a different question: How do I get the entire sidebar to not appear? I see in a previous email that Lukas provided this hint: > If you have loaded Pier-Security you can set the view > permissions of the side-bar to the admin only. This > means you remove all the permissions from Group and > Others of the side-bar page. In this case it won't > be displayed. But I not clear on how to access the page that sets the permissions for the side-bar page. Thanks again, Frank From dz0004455 at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 17:20:56 2008 From: dz0004455 at gmail.com (David Zmick) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:20:56 -0500 Subject: Customizing Pier In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: I would like to send you my pdf, but I cant attach it. I will get it to you somehow. On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Squeaker wrote: > Tudor Girba wrote: > > Go to the Commands widget and then access Settings. This will allow > > you to put away the View from the list of available commands. > > > > Thanks for the help. > > I was able to do what you suggested but what I wanted to accomplish is > to have the entire Views box on the sidebar not appear. > > Maybe I can pose a different question: How do I get the entire sidebar > to not appear? I see in a previous email that Lukas provided this hint: > > > If you have loaded Pier-Security you can set the view > > permissions of the side-bar to the admin only. This > > means you remove all the permissions from Group and > > Others of the side-bar page. In this case it won't > > be displayed. > > But I not clear on how to access the page that sets the permissions for > the side-bar page. > > Thanks again, > Frank > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > -- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.iam.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/attachments/20080901/692eba94/attachment.html From girba at iam.unibe.ch Mon Sep 1 18:31:33 2008 From: girba at iam.unibe.ch (Tudor Girba) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 18:31:33 +0200 Subject: Customizing Pier In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi again, I do not know exactly what your settings are, but I guess you have somewhere in your environment "Views" as an explicit string followed by something like "+views+" that embeds the views widget. The Unix security can only be applied on a structure (e.g., page, widget, file). So, what you should do is to create a page that says "Views +views+", embed this page into the environment, and then set the rights for this page like you did for the widget only. Does this help? Cheers, Doru On Sep 1, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Squeaker wrote: > Tudor Girba wrote: >> Go to the Commands widget and then access Settings. This will allow >> you to put away the View from the list of available commands. >> > > Thanks for the help. > > I was able to do what you suggested but what I wanted to accomplish is > to have the entire Views box on the sidebar not appear. > > Maybe I can pose a different question: How do I get the entire > sidebar > to not appear? I see in a previous email that Lukas provided this > hint: > >> If you have loaded Pier-Security you can set the view >> permissions of the side-bar to the admin only. This >> means you remove all the permissions from Group and >> Others of the side-bar page. In this case it won't >> be displayed. > > But I not clear on how to access the page that sets the permissions > for > the side-bar page. > > Thanks again, > Frank > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "Beauty is where we see it." From squeakman at gmail.com Mon Sep 1 20:52:12 2008 From: squeakman at gmail.com (Squeaker) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:52:12 -0400 Subject: Customizing Pier In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi again, > > I do not know exactly what your settings are, but I guess you have > somewhere in your environment "Views" as an explicit string followed > by something like "+views+" that embeds the views widget. > > The Unix security can only be applied on a structure (e.g., page, > widget, file). So, what you should do is to create a page that says > "Views +views+", embed this page into the environment, and then set > the rights for this page like you did for the widget only. > > Does this help? > > Cheers, > Doru > Thanks that has helped me a bit in putting the pieces together. Is there documentation somewhere that explains the things that you can add to your page, e.g., +Views+, +Sidebar+, +header+ etc? Cheers, Frank From renggli at iam.unibe.ch Mon Sep 1 20:57:03 2008 From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 20:57:03 +0200 Subject: Customizing Pier In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <2C473539-F0FF-4FA1-987D-C5429EF314D4@iam.unibe.ch> > Is there documentation somewhere that explains the things that you can > add to your page, e.g., +Views+, +Sidebar+, +header+ etc? These are all pages, components, files, blogs, posts, ... that are part of your Pier setup. +Views+ means to embed the structure named "Views" that is a child of the current page. You can also use more complicated absolute or relative paths to reach any other structure within your kernel: +/+ to embed the root page +/information/license+ to embed the license +..+ to embed the parent structure etc. Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch From squeakman at gmail.com Tue Sep 2 17:41:24 2008 From: squeakman at gmail.com (Squeaker) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:41:24 -0400 Subject: Customizing Pier In-Reply-To: <2C473539-F0FF-4FA1-987D-C5429EF314D4@iam.unibe.ch> References:

<2C473539-F0FF-4FA1-987D-C5429EF314D4@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: Lukas Renggli wrote: >> Is there documentation somewhere that explains the things that you can >> add to your page, e.g., +Views+, +Sidebar+, +header+ etc? > > These are all pages, components, files, blogs, posts, ... that are > part of your Pier setup. +Views+ means to embed the structure named > "Views" that is a child of the current page. You can also use more > complicated absolute or relative paths to reach any other structure > within your kernel: > > +/+ to embed the root page > +/information/license+ to embed the license > +..+ to embed the parent structure > etc. > > Cheers, > Lukas > Ok, the light is going on! Finally. Of course I have more questions. My experimenting leads me to believe that there is one Design for the entire kernel, is this true? I am hoping that I can customize the design on a per page basis as opposed to having one global design. Another question: How does one go about creating a new kernel? Many thanks, Frank From renggli at iam.unibe.ch Tue Sep 2 17:50:47 2008 From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 17:50:47 +0200 Subject: Customizing Pier In-Reply-To: References:

<2C473539-F0FF-4FA1-987D-C5429EF314D4@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: <976ADF62-8781-4D3E-B511-DD0DCDB8239E@iam.unibe.ch> >> +/+ to embed the root page >> +/information/license+ to embed the license >> +..+ to embed the parent structure >> etc. >> >> Cheers, >> Lukas >> > > Ok, the light is going on! Finally. Good. ;-) > Of course I have more questions. My experimenting leads me to believe > that there is one Design for the entire kernel, is this true? No. The page "/environment" defines the default design (it is sort of a meta-page for Pier). In the settings of the root page you see that the environment is set to "/environment". > I am hoping that I can customize the design on a per page basis as > opposed to having one global design. Now you can copy the default environment, modify it and go to a different page. In the settings of this other page you select the copied environment. Here you go, now you have two different designs. Child structures will inherit the design of their parent, if the structure does not define the design. > Another question: How does one go about creating a new kernel? Evaluating PRPierFrame initialize will guide you through the process of creating a new kernel and register it as a Seaside entry point. You might want to have a look at that code, to see how it exactly works (essentially it just creates an instance of PRKernel, creates a new Seaside application and tells it to use the new kernel instance). Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Wed Sep 3 00:37:50 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:37:50 +0100 Subject: Customizing Pier In-Reply-To: <976ADF62-8781-4D3E-B511-DD0DCDB8239E@iam.unibe.ch> References:

<2C473539-F0FF-4FA1-987D-C5429EF314D4@iam.unibe.ch> <976ADF62-8781-4D3E-B511-DD0DCDB8239E@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: <48BDC03E.20504@yahoo.co.uk> The Pier-PersistencyManager has a UI for adding kernels Keith From dz0004455 at gmail.com Wed Sep 3 02:17:15 2008 From: dz0004455 at gmail.com (David Zmick) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:17:15 -0500 Subject: Customizing Pier In-Reply-To: <48BDC03E.20504@yahoo.co.uk> References:

<2C473539-F0FF-4FA1-987D-C5429EF314D4@iam.unibe.ch> <976ADF62-8781-4D3E-B511-DD0DCDB8239E@iam.unibe.ch> <48BDC03E.20504@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: i really wish i wasnt so busy, i have pdf i would love to put somewhere, put i just dont have time! On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Keith Hodges wrote: > The Pier-PersistencyManager has a UI for adding kernels > > Keith > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > -- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.iam.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/attachments/20080903/ef645736/attachment.html From andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar Fri Sep 5 21:18:34 2008 From: andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar (Andres Fortier) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:18:34 -0300 Subject: Starting with Pier Message-ID: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Hi list! I need a CMS for a job and I thought about trying Pier. So, my point is that even though I work with Smalltalk every day, I'm willing to use Pier mainly as an end user. Of course if in the future I need complex controls I would program them, but for the time being I would like to just act as an end user. I've been reading some of the posts in the list (and checked presentations slides), but I'm having still kind of dizzy about where/how to start. So, I've bee thinking that maybe the best way to go is to take little steps based on my requirements and document them so that hopefully I can leave something useful for others. And of course I need the lists help :) Ok, so far I've downloaded the squeak one-click experience and it works ok. Now the next things I need to do are: 1. Remove, at least for the not-logged user, all the menus, the search box, etc. and 2. Add a blog component. So, basically my first step is to just set up a blog. Once that is done, the next things I would need are: 1. Disabling comments, so that only the original posts are allowed. 2. Styling the page. So, any help on how to do this would be really appreciated. -- Cheers, Andr?s From ducasse at iam.unibe.ch Fri Sep 5 21:32:51 2008 From: ducasse at iam.unibe.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?=) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 21:32:51 +0200 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: I hope that the video made by james robertson will be available because doru showed how to get started with pier? Stef On Sep 5, 2008, at 9:18 PM, Andres Fortier wrote: > Hi list! > > I need a CMS for a job and I thought about trying Pier. So, my point > is that even though I work with Smalltalk every day, I'm willing to > use Pier mainly as an end user. Of course if in the future I need > complex controls I would program them, but for the time being I would > like to just act as an end user. > > > I've been reading some of the posts in the list (and checked > presentations slides), but I'm having still kind of dizzy about > where/how to start. So, I've bee thinking that maybe the best way to > go is to take little steps based on my requirements and document them > so that hopefully I can leave something useful for others. And of > course I need the lists help :) > > Ok, so far I've downloaded the squeak one-click experience and it > works ok. Now the next things I need to do are: > 1. Remove, at least for the not-logged user, all the menus, the search > box, etc. > and > 2. Add a blog component. > > So, basically my first step is to just set up a blog. > Once that is done, the next things I would need are: > 1. Disabling comments, so that only the original posts are allowed. > 2. Styling the page. > > So, any help on how to do this would be really appreciated. > > -- > Cheers, > Andr?s > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > From andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar Fri Sep 5 21:48:53 2008 From: andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar (Andres Fortier) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:48:53 -0300 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Hi stef, thanks for the quick response. I checked out doru's slides of ESUG 08 but they weren't of much help. I'll try to find the video then. Thanks again, Andr?s st?phane ducasse escribi?: > I hope that the video made by james robertson will be available > because doru showed how to get started with pier? > > Stef > On Sep 5, 2008, at 9:18 PM, Andres Fortier wrote: > >> Hi list! >> >> I need a CMS for a job and I thought about trying Pier. So, my point >> is that even though I work with Smalltalk every day, I'm willing to >> use Pier mainly as an end user. Of course if in the future I need >> complex controls I would program them, but for the time being I would >> like to just act as an end user. >> >> >> I've been reading some of the posts in the list (and checked >> presentations slides), but I'm having still kind of dizzy about >> where/how to start. So, I've bee thinking that maybe the best way to >> go is to take little steps based on my requirements and document them >> so that hopefully I can leave something useful for others. And of >> course I need the lists help :) >> >> Ok, so far I've downloaded the squeak one-click experience and it >> works ok. Now the next things I need to do are: >> 1. Remove, at least for the not-logged user, all the menus, the search >> box, etc. >> and >> 2. Add a blog component. >> >> So, basically my first step is to just set up a blog. >> Once that is done, the next things I would need are: >> 1. Disabling comments, so that only the original posts are allowed. >> 2. Styling the page. >> >> So, any help on how to do this would be really appreciated. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Andr?s >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> > > From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Fri Sep 5 22:29:54 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:29:54 +0100 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> >>> So, basically my first step is to just set up a blog. >>> Once that is done, the next things I would need are: >>> 1. Disabling comments, so that only the original posts are allowed. >>> 2. Styling the page. >>> >>> So, any help on how to do this would be really appreciated. >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> Andr?s >>> >>> There is a package Pier-Jetsam-Environment whose purpose is to place all of the setup and configuration for an instance of pier under the control of the root frame component that you choose in /seaside/config, or that you embed in your seaside application. This configuration includes... css, javascript libraries (e.g NiftyCorners, Scriptaculous etc), default environment, initialization of custom environments, the forbidden request page, the "settings" parameters for pages etc. It is a bit experimental, but works for me so it is current code. There is a frame component which provides the traditional admin interface complete with tree view, and there is a frame component which supports the Content with style css framework. see: http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/Articles/17/ and there is a standard frame component which supports blueprint css. The simplest way to set up a basic pier site is to have two applications, one for users and an authenticated one for admins. best regards Keith From andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar Fri Sep 5 23:19:16 2008 From: andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar (Andres Fortier) Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:19:16 -0300 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <48C1A254.8070209@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Thanks for info Keith! I'll try it next week and see what can I do. Best regards, Andr?s Keith Hodges escribi?: > >>>> So, basically my first step is to just set up a blog. >>>> Once that is done, the next things I would need are: >>>> 1. Disabling comments, so that only the original posts are allowed. >>>> 2. Styling the page. >>>> >>>> So, any help on how to do this would be really appreciated. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Andr?s >>>> >>>> > There is a package Pier-Jetsam-Environment whose purpose is to place all > of the setup and configuration for an instance of pier under the control > of the root frame component that you choose in /seaside/config, or that > you embed in your seaside application. This configuration includes... > > css, javascript libraries (e.g NiftyCorners, Scriptaculous etc), default > environment, initialization of custom environments, the forbidden > request page, the "settings" parameters for pages etc. > > It is a bit experimental, but works for me so it is current code. > > There is a frame component which provides the traditional admin > interface complete with tree view, and there is a frame component which > supports the Content with style css framework. see: > http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/Articles/17/ and there is a standard > frame component which supports blueprint css. > > The simplest way to set up a basic pier site is to have two > applications, one for users and an authenticated one for admins. > > best regards > > Keith > > From squeakman at gmail.com Sun Sep 7 19:51:46 2008 From: squeakman at gmail.com (Squeaker) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:51:46 -0400 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Keith Hodges wrote: > The simplest way to set up a basic pier site is to have two > applications, one for users and an authenticated one for admins. > Can you elaborate on this please. By two applications, do you mean two Seaside applications? I am assuming that each application uses the same Pier Kernel? If yes then how does one configure this? How do you set up one application to be authenticated, is it by using WAAuthConfiguration? Thanks, Frank From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Mon Sep 8 05:07:08 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:07:08 +0100 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <48C496DC.9020701@yahoo.co.uk> Squeaker wrote: > Keith Hodges wrote: > > >> The simplest way to set up a basic pier site is to have two >> applications, one for users and an authenticated one for admins. >> >> > > Can you elaborate on this please. > > By two applications, do you mean two Seaside applications? > > Yes > I am assuming that each application uses the same Pier Kernel? If yes > then how does one configure this? > > You add the PRPierConfiguration to each application. There is a configuration option to select which PRKernel is used. > How do you set up one application to be authenticated, is it by using > WAAuthConfiguration? > > Yes correct, for this basic setup you do not really need the PRSecurity package. > Thanks, > Frank > > regards Keith From andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar Tue Sep 9 00:57:33 2008 From: andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar (Andres Fortier) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:57:33 -0300 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <48C5ADDD.8080804@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Hi Keith, I seem to be having a dependency problem when loading Pier-Jetsam-Environment from http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons (error attached below). Sorry if this is an obvious thing, I'm not used to work with Monticello. This package depends on the following classes: WACss PRPierMain You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: PRPierFrameAdminLibrary PRPierFrameAdminLibrary classSide>>settingsDescription PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>borderContentsPreformatted PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorAnchor PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorBodyText PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorBoxBackground PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorBroken PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorFooterBackground PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorHeaderBackground PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorHeaderTab PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorHeaderTabActive PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorHeaderTabAnchorActive PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorHeaderTabAnchors PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorHeaderTitle PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorPreformattedBackground PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorProtected PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorSearchBackground PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorSearchBackgroundSelected PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorSearchBorder PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>colorValidationMessage PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>css0500layout PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>css1000Basic PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>css1500Header PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>css1600HeaderTabs PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>css1700HeaderSearch PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>css2000Box PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>css4000Contents PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>css5000Footer PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>css6000PatchBluePrint PRPierFrameAdminLibrary>>pencilLogoPng PRPierMain>>forbidden: PRPierMain>>kernelRoot PRPierMain>>start: Thanks, Andr?s Keith Hodges escribi?: > >>>> So, basically my first step is to just set up a blog. >>>> Once that is done, the next things I would need are: >>>> 1. Disabling comments, so that only the original posts are allowed. >>>> 2. Styling the page. >>>> >>>> So, any help on how to do this would be really appreciated. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Andr?s >>>> >>>> > There is a package Pier-Jetsam-Environment whose purpose is to place all > of the setup and configuration for an instance of pier under the control > of the root frame component that you choose in /seaside/config, or that > you embed in your seaside application. This configuration includes... > > css, javascript libraries (e.g NiftyCorners, Scriptaculous etc), default > environment, initialization of custom environments, the forbidden > request page, the "settings" parameters for pages etc. > > It is a bit experimental, but works for me so it is current code. > > There is a frame component which provides the traditional admin > interface complete with tree view, and there is a frame component which > supports the Content with style css framework. see: > http://www.contentwithstyle.co.uk/Articles/17/ and there is a standard > frame component which supports blueprint css. > > The simplest way to set up a basic pier site is to have two > applications, one for users and an authenticated one for admins. > > best regards > > Keith > > From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Tue Sep 9 13:54:40 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:54:40 +0100 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C5ADDD.8080804@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> <48C5ADDD.8080804@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: <48C66400.1090006@yahoo.co.uk> Ah, yes Pier-Environment-Jetsam depends upon Seaside28Jetsam from squeaksource.com/Jetsam Keith From andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar Tue Sep 9 23:30:24 2008 From: andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar (Andres Fortier) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:30:24 -0300 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C66400.1090006@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> <48C5ADDD.8080804@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C66400.1090006@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <48C6EAF0.7030204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Maybe something else is missing? After loading Seaside28Jetsam-kph.70 when trying to load Pier-Jetsam-Environment-kph.17 I get: This package depends on the following classes: PRPierMain You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: PRPierMain>>forbidden: PRPierMain>>kernelRoot PRPierMain>>start: Any hints? Thanks in advance, Andr?s Keith Hodges escribi?: > Ah, yes Pier-Environment-Jetsam depends upon Seaside28Jetsam from > squeaksource.com/Jetsam > > Keith > > From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Wed Sep 10 00:37:03 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:37:03 +0100 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C6EAF0.7030204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> <48C5ADDD.8080804@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C66400.1090006@yahoo.co.uk> <48C6EAF0.7030204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: <48C6FA8F.30102@yahoo.co.uk> Andres Fortier wrote: > Maybe something else is missing? After loading Seaside28Jetsam-kph.70 > when trying to load Pier-Jetsam-Environment-kph.17 I get: > > This package depends on the following classes: > PRPierMain > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load > these definitions: > PRPierMain>>forbidden: > PRPierMain>>kernelRoot > PRPierMain>>start: > > Any hints? > > Thanks in advance, > Andr?s > PRPierMain is part of Pier-Seaside which is part of the base Pier. Keith From andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar Wed Sep 10 01:04:03 2008 From: andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar (Andres Fortier) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:04:03 -0300 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C6FA8F.30102@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> <48C5ADDD.8080804@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C66400.1090006@yahoo.co.uk> <48C6EAF0.7030204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C6FA8F.30102@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <48C700E3.3090309@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Thanks for the quick response Keith. I've downloaded the one-click image, where Pier seems to be running ok. I also tried updating to the latest Pier-Seaside version (Pier-Seaside-tg.306) and yet the PRPierMain class is not in my image. Could you tell me which package should I load? Thanks again, Andr?s Keith Hodges escribi?: > Andres Fortier wrote: >> Maybe something else is missing? After loading Seaside28Jetsam-kph.70 >> when trying to load Pier-Jetsam-Environment-kph.17 I get: >> >> This package depends on the following classes: >> PRPierMain >> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load >> these definitions: >> PRPierMain>>forbidden: >> PRPierMain>>kernelRoot >> PRPierMain>>start: >> >> Any hints? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Andr?s >> > PRPierMain is part of Pier-Seaside which is part of the base Pier. > > Keith > > From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Wed Sep 10 02:26:41 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:26:41 +0100 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C700E3.3090309@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> <48C5ADDD.8080804@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C66400.1090006@yahoo.co.uk> <48C6EAF0.7030204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C6FA8F.30102@yahoo.co.uk> <48C700E3.3090309@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: <48C71441.4060100@yahoo.co.uk> Andres Fortier wrote: > Thanks for the quick response Keith. I've downloaded the one-click > image, where Pier seems to be running ok. I also tried updating to the > latest Pier-Seaside version (Pier-Seaside-tg.306) and yet the > PRPierMain class is not in my image. Could you tell me which package > should I load? > > Thanks again, > Andr?s > > I am not yet running with the latest pier, my investigation indicates that PRPierMain has been removed from more recent versions of Pier-Seaside. So it appears that you can ignore the error entirely. Keith From renggli at iam.unibe.ch Wed Sep 10 07:45:58 2008 From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:45:58 +0200 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <48C6EAF0.7030204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> <48C5ADDD.8080804@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C66400.1090006@yahoo.co.uk> <48C6EAF0.7030204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: <7E5D67ED-C8C7-4464-A09F-0F0DF6A1124D@iam.unibe.ch> PRPierMain was required to run Pier on older versions of Seaside. All the functionality has now been moved to PRPierFrame. Cheers, Lukas On Sep 9, 2008, at 23:30 , Andres Fortier wrote: > Maybe something else is missing? After loading Seaside28Jetsam-kph.70 > when trying to load Pier-Jetsam-Environment-kph.17 I get: > > This package depends on the following classes: > PRPierMain > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load > these definitions: > PRPierMain>>forbidden: > PRPierMain>>kernelRoot > PRPierMain>>start: > > Any hints? > > Thanks in advance, > Andr?s > > Keith Hodges escribi?: >> Ah, yes Pier-Environment-Jetsam depends upon Seaside28Jetsam from >> squeaksource.com/Jetsam >> >> Keith >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch From andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar Wed Sep 10 14:23:29 2008 From: andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar (Andres Fortier) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:23:29 -0300 Subject: Starting with Pier In-Reply-To: <7E5D67ED-C8C7-4464-A09F-0F0DF6A1124D@iam.unibe.ch> References: <48C1860A.4020702@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C18D25.8050904@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C196C2.80901@yahoo.co.uk> <48C5ADDD.8080804@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48C66400.1090006@yahoo.co.uk> <48C6EAF0.7030204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <7E5D67ED-C8C7-4464-A09F-0F0DF6A1124D@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: <48C7BC41.6000900@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Ok, thanks Lucas and Keith! Cheers, Andr?s Lukas Renggli escribi?: > PRPierMain was required to run Pier on older versions of Seaside. All > the functionality has now been moved to PRPierFrame. > > Cheers, > Lukas > > On Sep 9, 2008, at 23:30 , Andres Fortier wrote: > >> Maybe something else is missing? After loading Seaside28Jetsam-kph.70 >> when trying to load Pier-Jetsam-Environment-kph.17 I get: >> >> This package depends on the following classes: >> PRPierMain >> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load >> these definitions: >> PRPierMain>>forbidden: >> PRPierMain>>kernelRoot >> PRPierMain>>start: >> >> Any hints? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Andr?s >> >> Keith Hodges escribi?: >>> Ah, yes Pier-Environment-Jetsam depends upon Seaside28Jetsam from >>> squeaksource.com/Jetsam >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > From estebanlm at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 22:57:11 2008 From: estebanlm at gmail.com (Esteban Lorenzano) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:57:11 -0300 Subject: [pier][ANN]A tutorial on pier styles References: Message-ID: Hi, David I just tried to download your tutorial but link seems to be broken. Anyway... can somebody tell me how do I use different stylesheets fron different pages? there is a "stylesheet" field in page settings, but I don't know how to upload the stylesheet... Thanks, Esteban On 2008-08-22 02:54:08 -0300, "David Zmick" said: > > > I have written a tutorial on "theming", and changing the way Pier looks, and > I would like some people to read it and give me feedback. The majority of > the document is about setting up Apache to host static content for Pier to > use. Any sugestion are welcome, I hope I didn't mess to much up. the > tutorial is at http://w337.uni.cc/PierDocs/customizingLook.pdf From girba at iam.unibe.ch Sat Sep 13 23:39:51 2008 From: girba at iam.unibe.ch (Tudor Girba) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:39:51 +0200 Subject: [pier][ANN]A tutorial on pier styles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02DCAAD0-8BF6-4718-AC70-CE4DEAA747AF@iam.unibe.ch> To work with the stylesheet you can do the following: - add a File (let's say you created /environment/anothercss) - go to the page you want to add the stylesheet for - go to the settings of this page - in the stylesheet field add /environment/anothercss - access Edit Design command and you will have an editor for the css Cheers, Doru On Sep 13, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi, David > I just tried to download your tutorial but link seems to be broken. > > Anyway... can somebody tell me how do I use different stylesheets fron > different pages? there is a "stylesheet" field in page settings, but I > don't know how to upload the stylesheet... > > Thanks, > Esteban > > On 2008-08-22 02:54:08 -0300, "David Zmick" > said: > >> >> >> I have written a tutorial on "theming", and changing the way Pier >> looks, and >> I would like some people to read it and give me feedback. The >> majority of >> the document is about setting up Apache to host static content for >> Pier to >> use. Any sugestion are welcome, I hope I didn't mess to much up. the >> tutorial is at http://w337.uni.cc/PierDocs/customizingLook.pdf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "When people care, great things can happen." From estebanlm at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 23:42:48 2008 From: estebanlm at gmail.com (Esteban Lorenzano) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:42:48 -0300 Subject: [pier][ANN]A tutorial on pier styles References: <02DCAAD0-8BF6-4718-AC70-CE4DEAA747AF@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: Thanks! On 2008-09-13 18:39:51 -0300, Tudor Girba said: > To work with the stylesheet you can do the following: > - add a File (let's say you created /environment/anothercss) > - go to the page you want to add the stylesheet for > - go to the settings of this page > - in the stylesheet field add /environment/anothercss > - access Edit Design command and you will have an editor for the css > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Sep 13, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> Hi, David >> I just tried to download your tutorial but link seems to be broken. >> >> Anyway... can somebody tell me how do I use different stylesheets fron >> different pages? there is a "stylesheet" field in page settings, but I >> don't know how to upload the stylesheet... >> >> Thanks, >> Esteban >> >> On 2008-08-22 02:54:08 -0300, "David Zmick" >> said: >> >>> >>> >>> I have written a tutorial on "theming", and changing the way Pier >>> looks, and >>> I would like some people to read it and give me feedback. The >>> majority of >>> the document is about setting up Apache to host static content for >>> Pier to >>> use. Any sugestion are welcome, I hope I didn't mess to much up. the >>> tutorial is at http://w337.uni.cc/PierDocs/customizingLook.pdf >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki From dz0004455 at gmail.com Sun Sep 14 06:05:26 2008 From: dz0004455 at gmail.com (David Zmick) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:05:26 -0500 Subject: [pier][ANN]A tutorial on pier styles In-Reply-To: References: <02DCAAD0-8BF6-4718-AC70-CE4DEAA747AF@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: yes, the link is broken, and i don't have time to fix it, I'm too busy with school, but, I'm working on it whenever I get the chance. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Thanks! > > On 2008-09-13 18:39:51 -0300, Tudor Girba said: > > > To work with the stylesheet you can do the following: > > - add a File (let's say you created /environment/anothercss) > > - go to the page you want to add the stylesheet for > > - go to the settings of this page > > - in the stylesheet field add /environment/anothercss > > - access Edit Design command and you will have an editor for the css > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On Sep 13, 2008, at 10:57 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > > >> Hi, David > >> I just tried to download your tutorial but link seems to be broken. > >> > >> Anyway... can somebody tell me how do I use different stylesheets fron > >> different pages? there is a "stylesheet" field in page settings, but I > >> don't know how to upload the stylesheet... > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Esteban > >> > >> On 2008-08-22 02:54:08 -0300, "David Zmick" > >> said: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> I have written a tutorial on "theming", and changing the way Pier > >>> looks, and > >>> I would like some people to read it and give me feedback. The > >>> majority of > >>> the document is about setting up Apache to host static content for > >>> Pier to > >>> use. Any sugestion are welcome, I hope I didn't mess to much up. the > >>> tutorial is at http://w337.uni.cc/PierDocs/customizingLook.pdf > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > > > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > -- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.iam.unibe.ch/pipermail/smallwiki/attachments/20080914/9d04644b/attachment.html From andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar Mon Sep 15 23:21:47 2008 From: andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar (Andres Fortier) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:21:47 -0300 Subject: Pier questions [Part 2] Message-ID: <48CED1EB.7000204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Hi list, I'm back, trying to configure Pier. The first step I need to achieve is having a blog running but with comments disabled. While doing so, some questions appeared: 1. It seems that the "Add" button has different meanings depending on the current selected page (environment? I still don't know exactly what this is in the Pier case). So, you can use it for adding a page in the main environment but only to add a post in the blog environment. Is this correct? Is it supposed to work in this way? 2. If the first is correct, is there a simple way to change the link caption, so that when the user is in the blog page the link states "Add Post" instead of "Add". I don't think that the previous approach is intuitive. 3. Is there a simple way to avoid leaving comments in blog posts? 4. Is there a way to configure the contents of the left sidebar. thanks for your help. -- Best Regards, Andr?s From girba at iam.unibe.ch Mon Sep 15 23:59:40 2008 From: girba at iam.unibe.ch (Tudor Girba) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:59:40 +0200 Subject: Pier questions [Part 2] In-Reply-To: <48CED1EB.7000204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> References: <48CED1EB.7000204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: <01FF170A-024D-412E-A16A-C9957739CF7C@iam.unibe.ch> Hi, > I'm back, trying to configure Pier. Good to have you back :). > The first step I need > to achieve is having a blog running but with comments disabled. While > doing so, some questions appeared: > > 1. It seems that the "Add" button has different meanings depending on > the current selected page (environment? I still don't know exactly > what this is in the Pier case). So, you can use it for adding a page > in the main environment but only to add a post in the blog > environment. Is this correct? Is it supposed to work in this way? Yes, it is correct. Add is a command and commands apply to the current "Structure". Examples of Structures are: Page, Blog, Post, Comment, Component, File. Depending on the current Structure and on the rights of the user you will be able to perform different commands. Coming back to the Add command, this particular command allows you to select what to add, and narrow down the options afterwards. > 2. If the first is correct, is there a simple way to change the link > caption, so that when the user is in the blog page the link states > "Add Post" instead of "Add". I don't think that the previous approach > is intuitive. There actually is a debate here about this issue. Some think it's better to have all Add commands under the same link, some think it's better to have several links. I happen to be on the second camp, but the current approach should work just fine. > 3. Is there a simple way to avoid leaving comments in blog posts? You can disable the comments by setting the Comment Timeout to be 00:00:00:00. You do that by going to the Blog, Edit and then set the Comment Timeout. > 4. Is there a way to configure the contents of the left sidebar. This is where Environment comes into play :). The Environment is the template, and those things on the right are embedded in the Environment. You can access the Environment from any page via the Edit Design command. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, one might have better chances to win by moving slower." From andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar Tue Sep 16 01:51:10 2008 From: andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar (Andres Fortier) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:51:10 -0300 Subject: Pier questions [Part 2] In-Reply-To: <01FF170A-024D-412E-A16A-C9957739CF7C@iam.unibe.ch> References: <48CED1EB.7000204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <01FF170A-024D-412E-A16A-C9957739CF7C@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: <48CEF4EE.2010501@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Hi Tudor, thanks for the response. Tomorrow I'll try based on your information. BTW, I've seen your slides of ESUG and Stephane said that there was a video of your presentation, but I couldn't find it. Do you know if it is available? Cheers, Andr?s Tudor Girba escribi?: > Hi, > >> I'm back, trying to configure Pier. > > Good to have you back :). > >> The first step I need >> to achieve is having a blog running but with comments disabled. While >> doing so, some questions appeared: >> >> 1. It seems that the "Add" button has different meanings depending on >> the current selected page (environment? I still don't know exactly >> what this is in the Pier case). So, you can use it for adding a page >> in the main environment but only to add a post in the blog >> environment. Is this correct? Is it supposed to work in this way? > > Yes, it is correct. > > Add is a command and commands apply to the current "Structure". > Examples of Structures are: Page, Blog, Post, Comment, Component, > File. Depending on the current Structure and on the rights of the user > you will be able to perform different commands. > > Coming back to the Add command, this particular command allows you to > select what to add, and narrow down the options afterwards. > >> 2. If the first is correct, is there a simple way to change the link >> caption, so that when the user is in the blog page the link states >> "Add Post" instead of "Add". I don't think that the previous approach >> is intuitive. > > There actually is a debate here about this issue. Some think it's > better to have all Add commands under the same link, some think it's > better to have several links. I happen to be on the second camp, but > the current approach should work just fine. > >> 3. Is there a simple way to avoid leaving comments in blog posts? > > You can disable the comments by setting the Comment Timeout to be > 00:00:00:00. You do that by going to the Blog, Edit and then set the > Comment Timeout. > >> 4. Is there a way to configure the contents of the left sidebar. > > This is where Environment comes into play :). The Environment is the > template, and those things on the right are embedded in the > Environment. You can access the Environment from any page via the Edit > Design command. > > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.tudorgirba.com/blog > > "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, > one might have better chances to win by moving slower." > > > From girba at iam.unibe.ch Tue Sep 16 07:45:22 2008 From: girba at iam.unibe.ch (Tudor Girba) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:45:22 +0200 Subject: Pier questions [Part 2] In-Reply-To: <48CEF4EE.2010501@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> References: <48CED1EB.7000204@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <01FF170A-024D-412E-A16A-C9957739CF7C@iam.unibe.ch> <48CEF4EE.2010501@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: <70337A89-261D-41D1-B059-71B23D6F032F@iam.unibe.ch> Hi, James Robertson recorded the video, but it is not yet available. Cheers, Doru On Sep 16, 2008, at 1:51 AM, Andres Fortier wrote: > Hi Tudor, thanks for the response. Tomorrow I'll try based on your > information. BTW, I've seen your slides of ESUG and Stephane said that > there was a video of your presentation, but I couldn't find it. Do you > know if it is available? > > Cheers, > Andr?s > > Tudor Girba escribi?: >> Hi, >> >>> I'm back, trying to configure Pier. >> >> Good to have you back :). >> >>> The first step I need >>> to achieve is having a blog running but with comments disabled. >>> While >>> doing so, some questions appeared: >>> >>> 1. It seems that the "Add" button has different meanings depending >>> on >>> the current selected page (environment? I still don't know exactly >>> what this is in the Pier case). So, you can use it for adding a page >>> in the main environment but only to add a post in the blog >>> environment. Is this correct? Is it supposed to work in this way? >> >> Yes, it is correct. >> >> Add is a command and commands apply to the current "Structure". >> Examples of Structures are: Page, Blog, Post, Comment, Component, >> File. Depending on the current Structure and on the rights of the >> user >> you will be able to perform different commands. >> >> Coming back to the Add command, this particular command allows you to >> select what to add, and narrow down the options afterwards. >> >>> 2. If the first is correct, is there a simple way to change the link >>> caption, so that when the user is in the blog page the link states >>> "Add Post" instead of "Add". I don't think that the previous >>> approach >>> is intuitive. >> >> There actually is a debate here about this issue. Some think it's >> better to have all Add commands under the same link, some think it's >> better to have several links. I happen to be on the second camp, but >> the current approach should work just fine. >> >>> 3. Is there a simple way to avoid leaving comments in blog posts? >> >> You can disable the comments by setting the Comment Timeout to be >> 00:00:00:00. You do that by going to the Blog, Edit and then set the >> Comment Timeout. >> >>> 4. Is there a way to configure the contents of the left sidebar. >> >> This is where Environment comes into play :). The Environment is the >> template, and those things on the right are embedded in the >> Environment. You can access the Environment from any page via the >> Edit >> Design command. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> www.tudorgirba.com/blog >> >> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster, >> one might have better chances to win by moving slower." >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution." From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Tue Sep 16 13:46:51 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:46:51 +0100 Subject: Validation in component Message-ID: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> Hello, I am attempting to write a component that displays two fields for text/password entry, in order to check that both user entries are the same. However the method #validate is never called on the component. Is this to be expected? My field is part of a record that is edited using an InternalEditor, I am wondering whether the following method should be... MAValidatorVisitor visitReferenceDescription: anObject self visitElementDescription: anObject reference cheers Keith From renggli at iam.unibe.ch Tue Sep 16 14:13:10 2008 From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:13:10 +0200 Subject: Pier - IMG placement In-Reply-To: <9DD8C92E-A201-4F71-B558-BA61E51E9D12@mac.com> References: <9DD8C92E-A201-4F71-B558-BA61E51E9D12@mac.com> Message-ID: <3647D830-C1AE-4B99-8488-17E4A7D2E744@iam.unibe.ch> Hi John, it looks to me that I missed your message. Sorry, for replaying that late. > At my work, we've been running a smallwiki (the origininal version of > pier) for about 3 years, and have accumulated around 3k pages. Wow, that's a lot of pages. > With the new version of pier, it is displaying as: > text1 > Picture1 text2 > Picture2 text3 > Does anyone know a way to fix this? Is it in the CSS or in the ST > code? This is because of the new way paragraphs are handles in Pier. If you type foo. bar. This will appear as "foo. bar." in the resulting HTML. To get two paragraphs you need to put a blank line in-between: foo. bar. Hope this helps? Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch From renggli at iam.unibe.ch Tue Sep 16 14:18:04 2008 From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:18:04 +0200 Subject: Validation in component In-Reply-To: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: > However the method #validate is never called on the component. Is this > to be expected? Yes, that's how it is implemented. I agree that this is a bit strange. > My field is part of a record that is edited using an InternalEditor, I > am wondering whether the following method should be... > > MAValidatorVisitor visitReferenceDescription: anObject > > self visitElementDescription: anObject reference You might want to add such an extension method, if it solves your problem. In general this should rather be a property of the meta model to know if a reference should be followed when validating or not. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Tue Sep 16 14:24:28 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:24:28 +0100 Subject: Validation in component In-Reply-To: References: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <48CFA57C.3080401@yahoo.co.uk> Lukas Renggli wrote: >> However the method #validate is never called on the component. Is this >> to be expected? >> > > Yes, that's how it is implemented. I agree that this is a bit strange. > > And I thought that this would be easy! Keith From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Wed Sep 17 01:47:34 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:47:34 +0100 Subject: Validation in component In-Reply-To: References: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <48D04596.609@yahoo.co.uk> Lukas Renggli wrote: >> However the method #validate is never called on the component. Is this >> to be expected? >> > > Yes, that's how it is implemented. I agree that this is a bit strange. > So how come MADateSelectorComponent implements #validate, if no one calls it? anyone? Keith From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Wed Sep 17 03:35:59 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 02:35:59 +0100 Subject: Validation in component In-Reply-To: <48D04596.609@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> <48D04596.609@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <48D05EFF.9090807@yahoo.co.uk> Keith Hodges wrote: > Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>> However the method #validate is never called on the component. Is this >>> to be expected? >>> >>> >> Yes, that's how it is implemented. I agree that this is a bit strange. >> >> > So how come MADateSelectorComponent implements #validate, if no one > calls it? > > anyone? > > Keith > I uploaded a modification to magritte-seaside in which #save/#apply calls #doValidate on the MAContainerComponent which collects the errors. #doValidate validates the memento as before but in addition it calls #validate on all contained non-readonly components. This means that #validate is now called on MADateSelector etc. (I could not see where this was being called before, and your comment above indicated that it wasnt. MAInternalEditorComponent propagates #validate to its own container component and its children in turn. This allows my "enter the text/password twice" component to raise an exception if the two entry fields do not match. I also added #valueOriginal to MAElementComponent which allows validation to compare with the original value. i.e. if the password is unchanged, dont worry about the second entry field. Would you have any interest in this dual entry component as an addition to the base Magritte-Seaside ? best regards Keith From renggli at iam.unibe.ch Wed Sep 17 08:33:27 2008 From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:33:27 +0200 Subject: Validation in component In-Reply-To: <48D05EFF.9090807@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> <48D04596.609@yahoo.co.uk> <48D05EFF.9090807@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <61844A98-1CF5-4AF7-9CAC-3D624E7AAF05@iam.unibe.ch> >> I uploaded a modification to magritte-seaside in which #save/#apply > calls #doValidate on the MAContainerComponent which collects the > errors. > #doValidate validates the memento as before but in addition it calls > #validate on all contained non-readonly components. I think #doValidate and #validate should be swapped, otherwise you break existing clients. > Would you have any interest in this dual entry component as an > addition > to the base Magritte-Seaside ? Yes, please. That sounds interesting. Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch From renggli at iam.unibe.ch Wed Sep 17 08:29:14 2008 From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:29:14 +0200 Subject: Validation in component In-Reply-To: <48D04596.609@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> <48D04596.609@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <914BADE0-ED19-4435-9D7E-4A773ECCFC41@iam.unibe.ch> > So how come MADateSelectorComponent implements #validate, if no one > calls it? Obviously a bug. In the early days of Magritte the components did the validation themselves, it was later moved to the meta model. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch From andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar Fri Sep 19 14:42:13 2008 From: andres at lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar (Andres Fortier) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:42:13 -0300 Subject: Pier user management Message-ID: <48D39E25.6030907@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Hi list, is there any documentation about user management in Pier? I basically need three levels: read-only users / users who can also post new blog entries and edit the wiki / admin users. -- Thanks in advance, Andr?s From renggli at me.com Fri Sep 19 15:04:07 2008 From: renggli at me.com (Lukas Renggli) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:04:07 +0200 Subject: Pier user management In-Reply-To: <48D39E25.6030907@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> References: <48D39E25.6030907@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: There is some documentation available here: http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/smalltalk/pier/security -- Lukas Renggli (mobile) http://www.lukas-renggli.ch On 19.09.2008, at 14:42, Andres Fortier wrote: > Hi list, > is there any documentation about user management in Pier? > I basically need three levels: read-only users / users who can also > post new blog entries and edit the wiki / admin users. > > -- > Thanks in advance, > Andr?s > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Sun Sep 21 04:10:21 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:10:21 +0100 Subject: Tags In-Reply-To: References: <48D39E25.6030907@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> Message-ID: <48D5AD0D.8050301@yahoo.co.uk> Now that tags have been moved to be a 'setting', will there be any migration issues, will pages loose their tags if I load the more recent pier? Keith From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Sun Sep 21 04:18:57 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:18:57 +0100 Subject: Validation in component In-Reply-To: <61844A98-1CF5-4AF7-9CAC-3D624E7AAF05@iam.unibe.ch> References: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> <48D04596.609@yahoo.co.uk> <48D05EFF.9090807@yahoo.co.uk> <61844A98-1CF5-4AF7-9CAC-3D624E7AAF05@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: <48D5AF11.7050901@yahoo.co.uk> Lukas Renggli wrote: >>> I uploaded a modification to magritte-seaside in which #save/#apply >>> >> calls #doValidate on the MAContainerComponent which collects the >> errors. >> #doValidate validates the memento as before but in addition it calls >> #validate on all contained non-readonly components. >> > > I think #doValidate and #validate should be swapped, otherwise you > break existing clients. > > I dont think so... since memento already implements #validate to perform the actual validation. Therefore components should also implement #validate for consistency. #doValidate only need to be implemented by the MAContainerComponent and is only called once. Keith From renggli at me.com Sun Sep 21 08:49:06 2008 From: renggli at me.com (Lukas Renggli) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:49:06 +0200 Subject: Tags In-Reply-To: <48D5AD0D.8050301@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48D39E25.6030907@lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar> <48D5AD0D.8050301@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <61093B3F-7234-4CE5-AC03-2EF7A1EBDB76@me.com> No. This is just a small change with the description, nothing else. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli (mobile) http://www.lukas-renggli.ch On 21.09.2008, at 04:10, Keith Hodges wrote: > Now that tags have been moved to be a 'setting', will there be any > migration issues, will pages loose their tags if I load the more > recent > pier? > > Keith > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki From renggli at iam.unibe.ch Sun Sep 21 10:46:57 2008 From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:46:57 +0200 Subject: Validation in component In-Reply-To: <48D5AF11.7050901@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> <48D04596.609@yahoo.co.uk> <48D05EFF.9090807@yahoo.co.uk> <61844A98-1CF5-4AF7-9CAC-3D624E7AAF05@iam.unibe.ch> <48D5AF11.7050901@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <49AAA3B7-6C07-4823-A548-78FAC3424755@iam.unibe.ch> >> I think #doValidate and #validate should be swapped, otherwise you >> break existing clients. > > I dont think so... since memento already implements #validate to > perform > the actual validation. Therefore components should also implement > #validate for consistency. Your changes break Pier and a few commercial applications I am currently working on. > #doValidate only need to be implemented by the MAContainerComponent > and > is only called once. I refactored the changes and added a component that shows two password input fields for confirmation in Name: Magritte-Seaside-lr.278 Author: lr Time: 21 September 2008, 10:45:19 am UUID: 93886626-e728-41af-9e10-52f0d0d569fe Ancestors: Magritte-Seaside-lr.277 - added a validated password component - refactored component validation so that it does not break backwards compatiblity Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Sun Sep 21 18:48:00 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:48:00 +0100 Subject: Validation in component In-Reply-To: <49AAA3B7-6C07-4823-A548-78FAC3424755@iam.unibe.ch> References: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> <48D04596.609@yahoo.co.uk> <48D05EFF.9090807@yahoo.co.uk> <61844A98-1CF5-4AF7-9CAC-3D624E7AAF05@iam.unibe.ch> <48D5AF11.7050901@yahoo.co.uk> <49AAA3B7-6C07-4823-A548-78FAC3424755@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: <48D67AC0.5070107@yahoo.co.uk> Lukas Renggli wrote: >>> I think #doValidate and #validate should be swapped, otherwise you >>> break existing clients. >>> >> I dont think so... since memento already implements #validate to >> perform >> the actual validation. Therefore components should also implement >> #validate for consistency. >> > > Your changes break Pier and a few commercial applications I am > currently working on. > > How can they break pier, since I am using it in pier Keith From renggli at iam.unibe.ch Sun Sep 21 19:06:35 2008 From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:06:35 +0200 Subject: Validation in component In-Reply-To: <48D67AC0.5070107@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48CF9CAB.70101@yahoo.co.uk> <48D04596.609@yahoo.co.uk> <48D05EFF.9090807@yahoo.co.uk> <61844A98-1CF5-4AF7-9CAC-3D624E7AAF05@iam.unibe.ch> <48D5AF11.7050901@yahoo.co.uk> <49AAA3B7-6C07-4823-A548-78FAC3424755@iam.unibe.ch> <48D67AC0.5070107@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <2567D129-D9F7-41CB-864A-EA12C88C61D0@iam.unibe.ch> I have code that calls #validate on the component (you are right, this is not Pier) and expects to get a boolean returned. I think my last cleanup (move all the actions to MAContainerComponent) of the MADescriptionComponent hierarchy makes things more clear without breaking existing dependencies. Lukas On Sep 21, 2008, at 18:48 , Keith Hodges wrote: > Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>> I think #doValidate and #validate should be swapped, otherwise you >>>> break existing clients. >>>> >>> I dont think so... since memento already implements #validate to >>> perform >>> the actual validation. Therefore components should also implement >>> #validate for consistency. >>> >> >> Your changes break Pier and a few commercial applications I am >> currently working on. >> >> > How can they break pier, since I am using it in pier > > Keith > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Mon Sep 22 15:26:03 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:26:03 +0100 Subject: Update to ComponentDecoration Message-ID: <48D79CEB.7080702@yahoo.co.uk> Name: Magritte-ComponentDecoration-kph.7 Author: kph Time: 22 September 2008, 2:25:09 pm UUID: 4611888e-a6ab-4a88-8e11-1f00df69f135 Ancestors: Magritte-ComponentDecoration-kph.6 Improved, now pier command forms can be annotated with wiki text that embeds components. For example, a "Password Reminder" link below the password field on the login form. === Keith From girba at iam.unibe.ch Tue Sep 23 22:48:02 2008 From: girba at iam.unibe.ch (Tudor Girba) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:48:02 +0200 Subject: [ANN] Pier 1.0.17 Message-ID: <3A7E0A06-2CB9-4B02-94B3-9332FE7BB239@iam.unibe.ch> Hi, Pier 1.0.17 is now available. You can download the one click Pier from the new webpage: http://www.piercms.com/download The release contains the core of Pier and several add-ons (like the blog). It features an improved site structure and a new stylesheet. The new www.piercms.com provides a documentation section and a blog that will grow in the near future. Feedback and comments are more than welcome. Cheers, Doru and Lukas From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Tue Sep 23 23:23:10 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:23:10 +0100 Subject: Pier cms Message-ID: <48D95E3E.6020800@yahoo.co.uk> Great news guys. Its hard work keeping up! If pier is going for "the big time", how about integrating some stuff as standard. For example the Pier-Jetsam-Debugging stuff. This adds preferences that enable debugging halts in various situations. I cant manage without it, but then my code has more bugs than yours. Second up, the PRPierFrameCentralised (from Pier-Jetsam-Environment), move all layout/style/default content configuration to the one class. best regards Keith From keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk Tue Sep 23 23:27:13 2008 From: keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk (Keith Hodges) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:27:13 +0100 Subject: [ANN] Pier 1.0.17 In-Reply-To: <3A7E0A06-2CB9-4B02-94B3-9332FE7BB239@iam.unibe.ch> References: <3A7E0A06-2CB9-4B02-94B3-9332FE7BB239@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: <48D95F31.3050501@yahoo.co.uk> The audio on the installation video is very low, Keith From girba at iam.unibe.ch Tue Sep 23 23:29:46 2008 From: girba at iam.unibe.ch (Tudor Girba) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:29:46 +0200 Subject: [ANN] Pier 1.0.17 In-Reply-To: <48D95F31.3050501@yahoo.co.uk> References: <3A7E0A06-2CB9-4B02-94B3-9332FE7BB239@iam.unibe.ch> <48D95F31.3050501@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <5ED7CE38-BADA-42DD-AE6A-FC920CEFB279@iam.unibe.ch> Thanks. Indeed we noticed that too and we will improve it in the following days :) Doru On Sep 23, 2008, at 11:27 PM, Keith Hodges wrote: > The audio on the installation video is very low, > > Keith > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki From girba at iam.unibe.ch Wed Sep 24 00:41:39 2008 From: girba at iam.unibe.ch (Tudor Girba) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 00:41:39 +0200 Subject: [Esug-list] [ANN] Pier 1.0.17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, These are definitely not normal times :). Your site is indeed slow. I accessed the main page in 20s. In comparison, http://www.piercms.com/doc took some 1.3s. Also, this page http://www.tudorgirba.com/research took 0.5s. To me it looks like the server is slow. For example, when I ping www.piercms.com (which is hosted on www.seasidehosting.st) I get 12ms. Cheers, Doru On Sep 24, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Steven Kelly wrote: > Hi Doru, > > Are the times in the attached screenshot of loading a Pier site > normal? > The screenshot is of Firebug's timeline in Firefox; similar results of > 20-30 seconds occur in plain Firefox and IE, from two different > networks > here (both >1Mbps across the Atlantic, ping times to the site around > 180ms). > > I'm no expert in Firebug or HTTP, and certainly not in Pier, but to my > eyes it looks like smalltalk-superpowers.org is serving about 80kbps > on > average, peaking around 240kbps and dipping to 5kbps. > > Cheers, > Steve > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: esug-list-bounces at lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list- >> bounces at lists.esug.org] On Behalf Of Tudor Girba >> Sent: 23 September 2008 23:48 >> To: Pier and Related Tools ... Magritte; Squeak list; ESUG Members >> Subject: [Esug-list] [ANN] Pier 1.0.17 >> >> Hi, >> >> Pier 1.0.17 is now available. You can download the one click Pier >> from >> the new webpage: >> http://www.piercms.com/download >> >> The release contains the core of Pier and several add-ons (like the >> blog). It features an improved site structure and a new stylesheet. >> >> The new www.piercms.com provides a documentation section and a blog >> that will grow in the near future. >> >> Feedback and comments are more than welcome. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru and Lukas >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list at lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/listinfo/esug-list > From ducasse at iam.unibe.ch Wed Sep 24 09:04:19 2008 From: ducasse at iam.unibe.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?=) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:04:19 +0200 Subject: Pier cms In-Reply-To: <48D95E3E.6020800@yahoo.co.uk> References: <48D95E3E.6020800@yahoo.co.uk> Message-ID: <246123EB-1BEC-4AE5-9C5F-87A352607168@iam.unibe.ch> I'm think that I'm losing email. Keith which news are you referring to? Stef On Sep 23, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Keith Hodges wrote: > Great news guys. > > Its hard work keeping up! > > If pier is going for "the big time", how about integrating some > stuff as > standard. > > For example the Pier-Jetsam-Debugging stuff. This adds preferences > that > enable debugging halts in various situations. > I cant manage without it, but then my code has more bugs than yours. > > Second up, the PRPierFrameCentralised (from Pier-Jetsam-Environment), > move all layout/style/default content configuration to the one class. > > best regards > > Keith > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki From girba at iam.unibe.ch Wed Sep 24 23:46:20 2008 From: girba at iam.unibe.ch (Tudor Girba) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:46:20 +0200 Subject: [Seaside] Pier - new distribution In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <860660EC-DF61-46F4-9E40-35FE53C629D1@iam.unibe.ch> To deploy Pier on seasidehosting, you should just copy the .image, .changes and the files directory. Is this what you did? Cheers, Doru On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:39 PM, Hans N Beck wrote: > Hi, > > ..... does not run on Seasidehosting. Is this intended or my fault ? > An Error comes up if make "start" on Seasidehosting. > > Greetings > > Hans > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside From girba at iam.unibe.ch Thu Sep 25 00:29:34 2008 From: girba at iam.unibe.ch (Tudor Girba) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:29:34 +0200 Subject: [Seaside] Pier - new distribution In-Reply-To: References: <860660EC-DF61-46F4-9E40-35FE53C629D1@iam.unibe.ch> Message-ID: <97F047B5-A4F3-479B-8B3D-56591AD8E115@iam.unibe.ch> Strange. That should work. Cheers, Doru On Sep 24, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Hans N Beck wrote: > Hi, > Am 24.09.2008 um 23:46 schrieb Tudor Girba: > >> To deploy Pier on seasidehosting, you should just copy >> the .image, .changes and the files directory. Is this what you did? > > jup, exactly. I but I can try it again to be shure. > > Greetings > > Hans >> >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:39 PM, Hans N Beck wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> ..... does not run on Seasidehosting. Is this intended or my >>> fault ? An Error comes up if make "start" on Seasidehosting. >>> >>> Greetings >>> >>> Hans >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside at lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside From fritsche.markus at gmx.net Sat Sep 27 21:21:23 2008 From: fritsche.markus at gmx.net (Markus Fritsche) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:21:23 +0200 Subject: Magritte-Morph Message-ID: Hello, I installed Magritte-Morph. I saw a screenshot of a morphic view of a pier page (at least, that's what I think I saw ;-)) in one of the papers about Magritte/ Pier. How can I open (if possible) a morphic view on a existing pier instance? (I'm new to Magritte; I have an idea for an application I'd like to do in Seaside, and I'm curious if Magritte is something which helps me doing all the boring form-building stuff) Kind regards, Markus From renggli at iam.unibe.ch Sun Sep 28 11:38:26 2008 From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:38:26 +0200 Subject: Magritte-Morph In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Markus > I installed Magritte-Morph. I saw a screenshot of a morphic view of a > pier page (at least, that's what I think I saw ;-)) in one of the > papers > about Magritte/ Pier. You also need to install Pier-OmniBrowser and the OmniBrowser runtime as prerequisite. > How can I open (if possible) a morphic view on a existing pier > instance? Open | Pier Browser opens a combined browser on all your existing Pier instances. Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch