Pier v. Plone
renggli at iam.unibe.ch
Wed Aug 15 00:13:49 MEST 2007
> I know that Lukas has used Zope/Plone, but I don't know how current
> knowledge is.
My knowledge of Zope and Plone dates back to 2002. I maintained some
legacy Zope projects in 2003, but as I discovered Smalltalk and
Seaside around the same time I never went back to Python again.
> How far is Pier from offering a competitive experience to end users
> developers with regard to something like Plone?
I have no idea in what state Zope/Plone is today. Maybe I should give
another try ...
> Is there any interest in the community of competing in that sphere?
I am interested, but I can't compete against hundreds of companies
and thousands of developers all alone.
> Or do most here happily use Seaside/Pier as a toolbox and the bigger
> application type CMS isn't on the radar?
I am using Seaside/Pier for all my web related projects.
> And initially I speak as to a basic Plone 3.0 out-of-the-box
> capabilities and user/developer experience. Not necessarily the
> of add-on products. Those can come later if the out-of-the-box
> experience is compelling enough.
To make the out-of-the-box experience of Pier (especially for those
not knowing Smalltalk and Seaside) quite some work is required.
> Naively it seems that content types are easier to develop in Pier as
> opposed to Plone.
This is certainly the case, even if Zope/Plone improved a lot over
the past 5 years.
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