From ssastre at seaswork.com.ar  Tue Mar  1 18:03:00 2005
From: ssastre at seaswork.com.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sebasti=E1n_Sastre?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 14:03:00 -0300
Subject: Smallwiki serving on port 80?
In-Reply-To: <20050228135126.GB1074@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <000001c51e80$869731f0$1400a8c0@enterprise>



Hi Alex,

	I'd like to know how can we do exactly what you have done. I
mean, with another domain/port, so we can have a smallwiki attending
port 9510 from an apache2 virtual server redirecting port 80 to it.

	Can you post any script for this?

	thanks,

Sebasti?n Sastre
 
ssastre at seaswork.com.ar 
Seaswork 
Special Software Solutions
www.seaswork.com.ar



> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: owner-smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch 
> [mailto:owner-smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch] En nombre de Alexandre Bergel
> Enviado el: Lunes, 28 de Febrero de 2005 10:51
> Para: smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch
> Asunto: Re: Smallwiki serving on port 80?
> 
> 
> I exactly encounter the same problem.
> One solution we adapter here, at the Uni of Bern, is to 
> configure the apache server locate in front of the smallwiki 
> to forward HTTP request from kilana to kilana:8080.
> 
> cheers,
> Alexandre
> 
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 01:46:40PM +0100, Roel Wuyts wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'd like to serve my SmallWiki on port 80 under MacOS-X, 
> but I always
> > get a 'permission denied error' when I try to do this ... 
> Did anybody 
> > gotten this to work? I can serve under other ports, but I'd 
> really like 
> > to use SmallWiki as my default site...
> > 
> > 
> > Roel Wuyts                                                  
>             
> >   DeComp
> > roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               
> Universit? Libre de 
> > Bruxelles
> > http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/                        
>             
> > Belgique
> > Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org
> 
> -- 
> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~bergel 
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
> 



From denker at iam.unibe.ch  Tue Mar  1 21:01:27 2005
From: denker at iam.unibe.ch (Marcus Denker)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 21:01:27 +0100
Subject: Smallwiki serving on port 80?
In-Reply-To: <000001c51e80$869731f0$1400a8c0@enterprise>
References: <000001c51e80$869731f0$1400a8c0@enterprise>
Message-ID: <b6c95b3c6b0692b83158aba135118213@iam.unibe.ch>




Am 01.03.2005 um 18:03 schrieb Sebasti?n Sastre:

> Hi Alex,
>
> 	I'd like to know how can we do exactly what you have done. I
> mean, with another domain/port, so we can have a smallwiki attending
> port 9510 from an apache2 virtual server redirecting port 80 to it.
>
> 	Can you post any script for this?
>

for squeak-ev, we use this:

<VirtualHost 213.239.195.232:80>
         ServerAdmin marcus at wudika.de
         ServerName www.squeak-ev.de
         DocumentRoot /home/squeak/public_html
         <Directory />
                 Options FollowSymLinks
                 AllowOverride Options FileInfo
         </Directory>
        RewriteEngine On
        RewriteRule ^/(.*).html$ /$1.html [L]
        RewriteRule ^/(.*).pdf$ /$1.pdf [L]
        RewriteRule ^/(.*).gif$ /$1.gif [L]
        RewriteRule ^/swtemp/(.*)$ /swtemp/$1 [PT]
        RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ http://localhost:8888/$1 [P,L]
</VirtualHost>



From ssastre at seaswork.com.ar  Tue Mar  1 21:34:56 2005
From: ssastre at seaswork.com.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sebasti=E1n_Sastre?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 17:34:56 -0300
Subject: Many instances on VWNC
Message-ID: <000601c51e9e$21b95fb0$1400a8c0@enterprise>

Hi,
 
    I had an image of VisualWorks NC running SmallWiki for a while.
Right now I've instantiated another wiki to make some test (on an unused
port).
 
    For some reason the wikis are offline. Their respective Swazoo
servers are never responding true to #isServing. I've stopped and
started the services lot of times without success.
 
    Also, I saw that I have in this image several instances of SmallWiki
that are old and I can't find who is preventing it to be garbage
collected. 
 
    any clue?
 
Sebasti?n Sastre
 
 <mailto:ssastre at seaswork.com.ar> ssastre at seaswork.com.ar 
Seaswork 
Special Software Solutions
www.seaswork.com.ar <http://www.seaswork.com.ar/> 
 
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From ssastre at seaswork.com.ar  Thu Mar  3 00:11:16 2005
From: ssastre at seaswork.com.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sebasti=E1n_Sastre?=)
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:11:16 -0300
Subject: Repairing wiki process (was: Many instances on VWNC)
In-Reply-To: <000601c51e9e$21b95fb0$1400a8c0@enterprise>
Message-ID: <000001c51f7d$235a4a20$1400a8c0@enterprise>

    I've discovered that I had many processes preventing the HTTPServer
get a chance to be foreground priority, so none of the wikis where
serving. I just made a terminate on the processes, restarted the wikis
and they browse now almost OK.
 
    I said almost, because after a change of the path of the VWNC image,
every page that had at least one resource, is giving a walkback, because
it can't load resource nn and giving exception: File or directory
'Resource/nn' not exists. This is curious because I've setup every wiki
with anImageStorage an not any of the other options, so one do not
expect that a change of image's path will have impact on the wikis
persistance mechanism.
 
    What do I have to have in mind to repair the wikis's resources?
 
    Any help will be appreciated,
 
    thanks,
 
Sebasti?n Sastre
 
 <mailto:ssastre at seaswork.com.ar> ssastre at seaswork.com.ar 
Seaswork 
Special Software Solutions
www.seaswork.com.ar <http://www.seaswork.com.ar/> 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: owner-smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch [mailto:owner-smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch]
En nombre de Sebasti?n Sastre
Enviado el: Martes, 01 de Marzo de 2005 17:35
Para: SmallWiki Mailing List
Asunto: Many instances on VWNC


Hi,
 
    I had an image of VisualWorks NC running SmallWiki for a while.
Right now I've instantiated another wiki to make some test (on an unused
port).
 
    For some reason the wikis are offline. Their respective Swazoo
servers are never responding true to #isServing. I've stopped and
started the services lot of times without success.
 
    Also, I saw that I have in this image several instances of SmallWiki
that are old and I can't find who is preventing it to be garbage
collected. 
 
    any clue?
 
Sebasti?n Sastre
 
 <mailto:ssastre at seaswork.com.ar> ssastre at seaswork.com.ar 
Seaswork 
Special Software Solutions
www.seaswork.com.ar <http://www.seaswork.com.ar/> 
 

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From charles at datasof.com  Thu Mar  3 15:08:26 2005
From: charles at datasof.com (Charles A. Monteiro)
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:08:26 -0500
Subject: Serving files
Message-ID: <opsm2ewcmff3t7b4@charles>



I have different types of files for which I just want to put up links and  
somehow force the browsers to do a download. The standard html would be to  
use an href. I was hoping to be able to do this via a "resource" since I  
could then use the resource upload capability to load a file from a  
browser. I can't seem to be able to do this. I can use a resource to embed  
an image file for example but that is about it. What about if one justs  
wants to serve that gif i.e. as a download? I tried unselecting the  
"embed" option in the resource creation screen but that did not work  
either. Clicking on the link just puts me back to the resource creation  
screen.

What am I doing wrong? Essentially, I want to provide downloads from the  
wiki for a variety of files i.e. .pdf, .mid, .zip etc.

BTW, I am using VW Smallwiki 1 although resources have been around for  
quite a while.

thanks in advance,

-- 
Charles A. Monteiro



From charles at datasof.com  Thu Mar  3 15:11:48 2005
From: charles at datasof.com (Charles A. Monteiro)
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:11:48 -0500
Subject: Smallwiki resources
In-Reply-To: <42127220.8060703@gmx.net>
References: <42127220.8060703@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <opsm2e1ypwf3t7b4@charles>



Markus,

Just noticed this. Did you ever get a reply on the "resource" issue. I  
don't seem to find one in my folder for Smallwiki.

thanks

-Charles

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:05:20 +0100, Markus Fritsche  
<Fritsche.Markus at gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Is there a place to download all SmallWiki ressources (like css files,  
> smileys and so on)?
>
> Addtionally, SmallWiki internal recources don't work for me, I can only  
> edit but not display them, is this a known issue?
>
> Best regards, Markus
>



-- 
Charles A. Monteiro



From renggli at iam.unibe.ch  Thu Mar  3 20:55:45 2005
From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 20:55:45 +0100
Subject: Serving files
In-Reply-To: <opsm2ewcmff3t7b4@charles>
References: <opsm2ewcmff3t7b4@charles>
Message-ID: <e0c99e21914365adc094e974c342aa21@iam.unibe.ch>



> I have different types of files for which I just want to put up links 
> and somehow force the browsers to do a download. The standard html 
> would be to use an href. I was hoping to be able to do this via a 
> "resource" since I could then use the resource upload capability to 
> load a file from a browser. I can't seem to be able to do this. I can 
> use a resource to embed an image file for example but that is about 
> it. What about if one justs wants to serve that gif i.e. as a 
> download? I tried unselecting the "embed" option in the resource 
> creation screen but that did not work either. Clicking on the link 
> just puts me back to the resource creation screen.

This isn't supported in SmallWiki 1. A simple workaround would be to 
directly link the resource using an external link:

	*My Resource>http://www.wiki.com/ResourceToDownload?action=MimeView*

> What am I doing wrong? Essentially, I want to provide downloads from 
> the wiki for a variety of files i.e. .pdf, .mid, .zip etc.

If you need to do this for a lot of resources, I suggest that you add 
another property to enforce the download programmatically. This would 
mean you need to add a few simple lines of code in the classes 
Resource, ResourceEdit and VisitorRendererHtml following the pattern of 
#embed.

Cheers,
Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch



From renggli at iam.unibe.ch  Thu Mar  3 21:09:54 2005
From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:09:54 +0100
Subject: Smallwiki resources
In-Reply-To: <opsm2e1ypwf3t7b4@charles>
References: <42127220.8060703@gmx.net> <opsm2e1ypwf3t7b4@charles>
Message-ID: <ae65ec747c6495fc7191e019cbd20bda@iam.unibe.ch>



> Just noticed this. Did you ever get a reply on the "resource" issue. I 
> don't seem to find one in my folder for Smallwiki.

What is your question? I don't get it.

> Is there a place to download all SmallWiki ressources (like css files, 
> smileys and so on)?

	http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/smallwiki/

The follwing command gives all you need (and a some extra stuff that is 
not needed and only used internall for our smallwikis):

	wget -r -np http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/smallwiki/

Cheers,
Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch



From ducasse at iam.unibe.ch  Sat Mar  5 09:50:36 2005
From: ducasse at iam.unibe.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 09:50:36 +0100
Subject: Fwd: SmallWiki questions
Message-ID: <08660e3238f4d56c06b5cf179880fa3f@iam.unibe.ch>





Begin forwarded message:

> From: Raymond Asselin <raymondasselin at sympatico.ca>
> Date: 4 mars 2005 23:42:07 GMT+01:00
> To: squeak-dev <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> Subject: SmallWiki questions
> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list 
> <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>
> I'm working on Mac OSX, SmallWiki run in a 3.7 image...
>
> 1) How can I tell SmallWiki to use MacRoman encoding never mind which
> browser it runs in (for now it is Safari).
>
> I have this problem with SmallWiki and  never had it with Swiki.
>
>
> 2) How do you load an image (graphic) in SmallWiki and does it support
> the same set as Swiki or at least (GIF PNG JPEG).
>
> Thanks
>
>



From ssastre at seaswork.com.ar  Sat Mar  5 20:03:57 2005
From: ssastre at seaswork.com.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sebasti=E1n_Sastre?=)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 16:03:57 -0300
Subject: Repaired wiki (was: Repairing wiki process (was: Many instances on VWNC))
In-Reply-To: <000001c51f7d$235a4a20$1400a8c0@enterprise>
Message-ID: <000001c521b6$19da5270$1400a8c0@enterprise>

I've saw that some processes where preventing the service to run right.
I just terminated those processes and restarted the services to get in
production again.
 
regards,
 
Sebasti?n Sastre
 
 <mailto:ssastre at seaswork.com.ar> ssastre at seaswork.com.ar 
Seaswork 
Special Software Solutions
www.seaswork.com.ar <http://www.seaswork.com.ar/> 
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: owner-smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch [mailto:owner-smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch]
En nombre de Sebasti?n Sastre
Enviado el: Mi?rcoles, 02 de Marzo de 2005 20:11
Para: smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch
Asunto: Repairing wiki process (was: Many instances on VWNC)


    I've discovered that I had many processes preventing the HTTPServer
get a chance to be foreground priority, so none of the wikis where
serving. I just made a terminate on the processes, restarted the wikis
and they browse now almost OK.
 
    I said almost, because after a change of the path of the VWNC image,
every page that had at least one resource, is giving a walkback, because
it can't load resource nn and giving exception: File or directory
'Resource/nn' not exists. This is curious because I've setup every wiki
with anImageStorage an not any of the other options, so one do not
expect that a change of image's path will have impact on the wikis
persistance mechanism.
 
    What do I have to have in mind to repair the wikis's resources?
 
    Any help will be appreciated,
 
    thanks,
 

Sebasti?n Sastre
 
 <mailto:ssastre at seaswork.com.ar> ssastre at seaswork.com.ar 
Seaswork 
Special Software Solutions
www.seaswork.com.ar <http://www.seaswork.com.ar/> 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: owner-smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch [mailto:owner-smallwiki at iam.unibe.ch]
En nombre de Sebasti?n Sastre
Enviado el: Martes, 01 de Marzo de 2005 17:35
Para: SmallWiki Mailing List
Asunto: Many instances on VWNC


Hi,
 
    I had an image of VisualWorks NC running SmallWiki for a while.
Right now I've instantiated another wiki to make some test (on an unused
port).
 
    For some reason the wikis are offline. Their respective Swazoo
servers are never responding true to #isServing. I've stopped and
started the services lot of times without success.
 
    Also, I saw that I have in this image several instances of SmallWiki
that are old and I can't find who is preventing it to be garbage
collected. 
 
    any clue?
 
Sebasti?n Sastre
 
 <mailto:ssastre at seaswork.com.ar> ssastre at seaswork.com.ar 
Seaswork 
Special Software Solutions
www.seaswork.com.ar <http://www.seaswork.com.ar/> 
 

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From renggli at gmail.com  Sun Mar  6 17:10:59 2005
From: renggli at gmail.com (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 17:10:59 +0100
Subject: SmallWiki questions
In-Reply-To: <r02010400-1038-A3AA38CE8CFE11D99AC4000D935A4CE2@192.168.1.2>
References: <r02010400-1038-A3AA38CE8CFE11D99AC4000D935A4CE2@192.168.1.2>
Message-ID: <67628d6905030608105c2bdee1@mail.gmail.com>



Hi Raymond,

please ask your question concerning SmallWiki to the SmallWiki mailing
list. They will be usually answered quicker ;-)

> 1) How can I tell SmallWiki to use MacRoman encoding never mind which
> browser it runs in (for now it is Safari).

You can change the encoding from the web-interface by logging in as
admin, then clicking Admin | Components and editing the preferences of
Metatag Common, Encoding.

> I have this problem with SmallWiki and  never had it with Swiki.

SmallWiki has been developed using VisualWorks, that uses different encodings.

> 2) How do you load an image (graphic) in SmallWiki and does it support
> the same set as Swiki or at least (GIF PNG JPEG).

SmallWiki will serve any kind of file, it doesn't matter what type it
is. For all resources having a mime-type with the pattern image/* it
will generate an image-tag. Other multimedia files (sound, video) will
trigger embed-tags, else just a normal link is generated.

Cheers,
Lukas

On Fri,  4 Mar 2005 17:42:07 -0500, Raymond Asselin
<raymondasselin at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I'm working on Mac OSX, SmallWiki run in a 3.7 image...
> 
> 1) How can I tell SmallWiki to use MacRoman encoding never mind which
> browser it runs in (for now it is Safari).
> 
> I have this problem with SmallWiki and  never had it with Swiki.
> 
> 2) How do you load an image (graphic) in SmallWiki and does it support
> the same set as Swiki or at least (GIF PNG JPEG).
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 

-- 
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch



From Alexander at Lazarevic.de  Mon Mar  7 02:34:17 2005
From: Alexander at Lazarevic.de (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Alexander_Lazarevi=E6?=)
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 02:34:17 +0100
Subject: ML archive
Message-ID: <422BAF99.6070406@Lazarevic.de>



Hi!

Is there an archive of this mailing list? I did not see any link on the
majordomo pages that points to one!?

Regards,
	Alex



From Alexander at Lazarevic.de  Mon Mar  7 08:25:18 2005
From: Alexander at Lazarevic.de (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Alexander_Lazarevi=E6?=)
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 08:25:18 +0100
Subject: ML archive
In-Reply-To: <422BAF99.6070406@Lazarevic.de>
References: <422BAF99.6070406@Lazarevic.de>
Message-ID: <422C01DE.2030603@Lazarevic.de>



Ok found it.

http://impara.de/pipermail/smallwiki/

Alexander Lazarevi? schrieb:
> Hi!
> 
> Is there an archive of this mailing list? I did not see any link on the
> majordomo pages that points to one!?
> 
> Regards,
> 	Alex



From michael at impara.de  Mon Mar  7 08:47:00 2005
From: michael at impara.de (Michael Rueger)
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 08:47:00 +0100
Subject: ML archive
In-Reply-To: <422BAF99.6070406@Lazarevic.de>
References: <422BAF99.6070406@Lazarevic.de>
Message-ID: <422C06F4.3070905@impara.de>



Alexander Lazarevi? wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Is there an archive of this mailing list? I did not see any link on the
> majordomo pages that points to one!?

http://impara.de/pipermail/smallwiki/

Michael



From Alexander at Lazarevic.de  Mon Mar  7 09:15:20 2005
From: Alexander at Lazarevic.de (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Alexander_Lazarevi=E6?=)
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:15:20 +0100
Subject: ML archive
In-Reply-To: <422C06F4.3070905@impara.de>
References: <422BAF99.6070406@Lazarevic.de> <422C06F4.3070905@impara.de>
Message-ID: <422C0D98.5080804@Lazarevic.de>



I found it just after having my first morning coffee. Thanks.
But the archive does not cover 2005!?

Alex

Michael Rueger schrieb:
> Alexander Lazarevi? wrote:
> 
>> Hi!
>>
>> Is there an archive of this mailing list? I did not see any link on the
>> majordomo pages that points to one!?
> 
> 
> http://impara.de/pipermail/smallwiki/
> 
> Michael



From charles at datasof.com  Mon Mar  7 14:55:10 2005
From: charles at datasof.com (Charles A. Monteiro)
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 08:55:10 -0500
Subject: SmallWiki questions
In-Reply-To: <67628d6905030608105c2bdee1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <r02010400-1038-A3AA38CE8CFE11D99AC4000D935A4CE2@192.168.1.2> <67628d6905030608105c2bdee1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <opsm9sx8emf3t7b4@charles>



How can I force something like a .mid i.e. midi file to be treated as a  
normal link and therefore have the browser query the user whether he/she  
wants to open or download the file.?

thanks

-Charles

On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 17:10:59 +0100, Lukas Renggli <renggli at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Raymond,
>
> please ask your question concerning SmallWiki to the SmallWiki mailing
> list. They will be usually answered quicker ;-)
>
>> 1) How can I tell SmallWiki to use MacRoman encoding never mind which
>> browser it runs in (for now it is Safari).
>
> You can change the encoding from the web-interface by logging in as
> admin, then clicking Admin | Components and editing the preferences of
> Metatag Common, Encoding.
>
>> I have this problem with SmallWiki and  never had it with Swiki.
>
> SmallWiki has been developed using VisualWorks, that uses different  
> encodings.
>
>> 2) How do you load an image (graphic) in SmallWiki and does it support
>> the same set as Swiki or at least (GIF PNG JPEG).
>
> SmallWiki will serve any kind of file, it doesn't matter what type it
> is. For all resources having a mime-type with the pattern image/* it
> will generate an image-tag. Other multimedia files (sound, video) will
> trigger embed-tags, else just a normal link is generated.
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>
> On Fri,  4 Mar 2005 17:42:07 -0500, Raymond Asselin
> <raymondasselin at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> I'm working on Mac OSX, SmallWiki run in a 3.7 image...
>>
>> 1) How can I tell SmallWiki to use MacRoman encoding never mind which
>> browser it runs in (for now it is Safari).
>>
>> I have this problem with SmallWiki and  never had it with Swiki.
>>
>> 2) How do you load an image (graphic) in SmallWiki and does it support
>> the same set as Swiki or at least (GIF PNG JPEG).
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>



-- 
Charles A. Monteiro



From renggli at iam.unibe.ch  Mon Mar  7 15:36:14 2005
From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 15:36:14 +0100
Subject: SmallWiki questions
In-Reply-To: <opsm9sx8emf3t7b4@charles>
References: <r02010400-1038-A3AA38CE8CFE11D99AC4000D935A4CE2@192.168.1.2> <67628d6905030608105c2bdee1@mail.gmail.com> <opsm9sx8emf3t7b4@charles>
Message-ID: <252d717e2d1ef1162fcbb1fde139ac8c@iam.unibe.ch>



> How can I force something like a .mid i.e. midi file to be treated as 
> a normal link and therefore have the browser query the user whether 
> he/she wants to open or download the file.?

Un-check the 'embed' checkbox in the upload dialog.

Cheers,
Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch



From charles at datasof.com  Mon Mar  7 15:55:25 2005
From: charles at datasof.com (Charles A. Monteiro)
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:55:25 -0500
Subject: SmallWiki questions
In-Reply-To: <252d717e2d1ef1162fcbb1fde139ac8c@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <r02010400-1038-A3AA38CE8CFE11D99AC4000D935A4CE2@192.168.1.2> <67628d6905030608105c2bdee1@mail.gmail.com> <opsm9sx8emf3t7b4@charles> <252d717e2d1ef1162fcbb1fde139ac8c@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <opsm9vqny0f3t7b4@charles>



That does not seem to work.

-Charles

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 15:36:14 +0100, Lukas Renggli <renggli at iam.unibe.ch>  
wrote:

>> How can I force something like a .mid i.e. midi file to be treated as a  
>> normal link and therefore have the browser query the user whether  
>> he/she wants to open or download the file.?
>
> Un-check the 'embed' checkbox in the upload dialog.
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>



-- 
Charles A. Monteiro



From renggli at iam.unibe.ch  Mon Mar  7 16:02:38 2005
From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 16:02:38 +0100
Subject: SmallWiki questions
In-Reply-To: <opsm9vqny0f3t7b4@charles>
References: <r02010400-1038-A3AA38CE8CFE11D99AC4000D935A4CE2@192.168.1.2> <67628d6905030608105c2bdee1@mail.gmail.com> <opsm9sx8emf3t7b4@charles> <252d717e2d1ef1162fcbb1fde139ac8c@iam.unibe.ch> <opsm9vqny0f3t7b4@charles>
Message-ID: <03ce4172f9ff51bc53ef6b27fd7f0c82@iam.unibe.ch>



What version of SmallWiki are you using?

> That does not seem to work.

This means that there is no link and it is embedded into the web-page, 
no matter what you choose for the 'embed' property in the upload 
dialog?

Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch



From renggli at iam.unibe.ch  Mon Mar  7 16:02:38 2005
From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 16:02:38 +0100
Subject: SmallWiki questions
In-Reply-To: <opsm9vqny0f3t7b4@charles>
References: <r02010400-1038-A3AA38CE8CFE11D99AC4000D935A4CE2@192.168.1.2> <67628d6905030608105c2bdee1@mail.gmail.com> <opsm9sx8emf3t7b4@charles> <252d717e2d1ef1162fcbb1fde139ac8c@iam.unibe.ch> <opsm9vqny0f3t7b4@charles>
Message-ID: <03ce4172f9ff51bc53ef6b27fd7f0c82@iam.unibe.ch>



What version of SmallWiki are you using?

> That does not seem to work.

This means that there is no link and it is embedded into the web-page, 
no matter what you choose for the 'embed' property in the upload 
dialog?

Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch



From charles at datasof.com  Mon Mar  7 18:12:52 2005
From: charles at datasof.com (Charles A. Monteiro)
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:12:52 -0500
Subject: Smallwiki resources
In-Reply-To: <ae65ec747c6495fc7191e019cbd20bda@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <42127220.8060703@gmx.net> <opsm2e1ypwf3t7b4@charles> <ae65ec747c6495fc7191e019cbd20bda@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <opsm913qwef3t7b4@charles>



Sorry, that was not intended for the general list.

-Charles

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 21:09:54 +0100, Lukas Renggli <renggli at iam.unibe.ch>  
wrote:

>> Just noticed this. Did you ever get a reply on the "resource" issue. I  
>> don't seem to find one in my folder for Smallwiki.
>
> What is your question? I don't get it.
>
>> Is there a place to download all SmallWiki ressources (like css files,  
>> smileys and so on)?
>
> 	http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/smallwiki/
>
> The follwing command gives all you need (and a some extra stuff that is  
> not needed and only used internall for our smallwikis):
>
> 	wget -r -np http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/smallwiki/
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>



-- 
Charles A. Monteiro



From ducasse at iam.unibe.ch  Sat Mar 12 20:41:11 2005
From: ducasse at iam.unibe.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 20:41:11 +0100
Subject: http://moodle.org/
Message-ID: <c5f254843e46d360d9e779849f7b4bcc@iam.unibe.ch>



http://moodle.org/

Stef



From ssastre at seaswork.com.ar  Sun Mar 13 03:59:10 2005
From: ssastre at seaswork.com.ar (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sebasti=E1n_Sastre?=)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:59:10 -0300
Subject: Refactoring wiki contents
Message-ID: <000201c52778$a29c7ad0$1400a8c0@enterprise>

Hi all,
 
    anybody knows how can I refactor the contents on a wiki?
 
    I have some folders with lot of info wich I need to move it to a
parent folder.
 
    I need to know if this is possible on smallwiki, and how.
 
    thanks,
 
Sebasti?n Sastre
 
 <mailto:ssastre at seaswork.com.ar> ssastre at seaswork.com.ar 
Seaswork 
Special Software Solutions
www.seaswork.com.ar <http://www.seaswork.com.ar/> 
 
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From ducasse at iam.unibe.ch  Sun Mar 13 11:09:11 2005
From: ducasse at iam.unibe.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?=)
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:09:11 +0100
Subject: Refactoring wiki contents
In-Reply-To: <000201c52778$a29c7ad0$1400a8c0@enterprise>
References: <000201c52778$a29c7ad0$1400a8c0@enterprise>
Message-ID: <4e8bd90f9158b87c6585332504cdd4dc@iam.unibe.ch>



This is not possible automatically right now but we always though that 
this would be a cool feature.
So if you do something please let us know.
Normally david vogel did a interface and had some code to move folder 
around... this should be somewhere on store. But I do not know where. 
Sorry to be that messy.

Stef

On 13 mars 05, at 3:59, Sebasti?n Sastre wrote:

> Hi all,
> ?
> ??? anybody knows how can I refactor the contents on a wiki?
> ?
> ??? I have some folders with lot of info wich I need to move it to a 
> parent folder.
> ?
> ??? I need to know if this is possible on smallwiki, and how.
> ?
> ??? thanks,
> ?
> Sebasti?n Sastre
> ?
> ssastre at seaswork.com.ar
> Seaswork?
> Special Software Solutions
> www.seaswork.com.ar
> ?



From charles at datasof.com  Mon Mar 14 15:21:48 2005
From: charles at datasof.com (Charles A. Monteiro)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:21:48 -0500
Subject: Refactoring wiki contents
In-Reply-To: <000201c52778$a29c7ad0$1400a8c0@enterprise>
References: <000201c52778$a29c7ad0$1400a8c0@enterprise>
Message-ID: <opsnmsumemf3t7b4@charles>



Here comes the answer you don't want:

Manually this could be done quite easily i.e. if one had an inspector  
opened on the wiki one just needs to remove from a particular spot in the  
document tree and add to another. This could also be generalized into a  
workspace script. Something similar to said script could be used as "one  
time only" code that an admin user would paste into the wiki, run once and  
then erase.

So my point is:

1. There are lot of advantages to running a Smallwiki headful.
2. Running headfully and the fact that one can execute Smalltalk code on a  
wiki means that there is a lot that one can do for admin type of things  
that do not require building any formal Smallwiki actions or I guess now  
Seaside things.

but sorry for not really answering your question :)

-Charles


On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:59:10 -0300, Sebasti?n Sastre  
<ssastre at seaswork.com.ar> wrote:

> Hi all,
>    anybody knows how can I refactor the contents on a wiki?
>    I have some folders with lot of info wich I need to move it to a
> parent folder.
>    I need to know if this is possible on smallwiki, and how.
>    thanks,
> Sebasti?n Sastre
> <mailto:ssastre at seaswork.com.ar> ssastre at seaswork.com.ar
> Seaswork
> Special Software Solutions
> www.seaswork.com.ar <http://www.seaswork.com.ar/>
>



-- 
Charles A. Monteiro



From Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be  Mon Mar 14 18:11:59 2005
From: Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be (Roel Wuyts)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:11:59 +0100
Subject: SmallWiki 1 running headless under OS-X
Message-ID: <e5735d961d47713d6ac5c80308b33b64@ulb.ac.be>



Hello,
after some fiddling I managed to run SmallWiki 1 in headless mode with 
VisualWorks. I added a number of actions (in an extension, of course) 
to save an image, quit it, save-and-quit it so that I can launch 
SmallWiki as a daemon when the machine boots, and with the intention to 
save it when the machine goes down (need to test this further since I 
do not know whether OS-X will actually wait until my script is finished 
before killing the headless-VW process, but ok). I added the necessary 
Mac OS-X config files to do this (configurable and all).

Are other people in need of this? Is there a good place to put these 
things? CincomStore maybe? With a description on some SmallWiki page? 
Maybe other people can chime in and put their 
configurations/scripts/batch files for other OS-s and Smalltalk 
versions (or, ahum, maybe it already exists and I overlooked it)?


--
Roel Wuyts                                                              
   DeComp
roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de 
Bruxelles
http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/                                    
Belgique
Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org



From ducasse at iam.unibe.ch  Mon Mar 14 22:09:33 2005
From: ducasse at iam.unibe.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?=)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:09:33 +0100
Subject: SmallWiki 1 running headless under OS-X
In-Reply-To: <e5735d961d47713d6ac5c80308b33b64@ulb.ac.be>
References: <e5735d961d47713d6ac5c80308b33b64@ulb.ac.be>
Message-ID: <7e515556daa23e8ea4b4419bb5f6ef75@iam.unibe.ch>



sounds cool roel....

Stef

On 14 mars 05, at 18:11, Roel Wuyts wrote:

> Hello,
> after some fiddling I managed to run SmallWiki 1 in headless mode with 
> VisualWorks. I added a number of actions (in an extension, of course) 
> to save an image, quit it, save-and-quit it so that I can launch 
> SmallWiki as a daemon when the machine boots, and with the intention 
> to save it when the machine goes down (need to test this further since 
> I do not know whether OS-X will actually wait until my script is 
> finished before killing the headless-VW process, but ok). I added the 
> necessary Mac OS-X config files to do this (configurable and all).
>
> Are other people in need of this? Is there a good place to put these 
> things? CincomStore maybe? With a description on some SmallWiki page? 
> Maybe other people can chime in and put their 
> configurations/scripts/batch files for other OS-s and Smalltalk 
> versions (or, ahum, maybe it already exists and I overlooked it)?
>
>
> --
> Roel Wuyts                                                             
>    DeComp
> roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de 
> Bruxelles
> http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/                                   
>  Belgique
> Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org
>



From Alexander at Lazarevic.de  Tue Mar 15 04:00:25 2005
From: Alexander at Lazarevic.de (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Alexander_Lazarevi=E6?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:00:25 +0100
Subject: Revert seems not to revert page titels
Message-ID: <42364FC9.1090403@Lazarevic.de>



I just stumbled over this:

Create a SWFolder Foo, edit the text and save. Edit again and change the
title to Bar and save again. Now go to the history and revert to the
first version named Foo. After that you get a page not found error on
Foo. If you now enter manually the former URL for Bar you get a page
with the original contents of Foo! :()

Hopefully this ain't FUBAR. ;)

Alex



From Alexander at Lazarevic.de  Tue Mar 15 05:43:03 2005
From: Alexander at Lazarevic.de (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Alexander_Lazarevi=E6?=)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 05:43:03 +0100
Subject: Menu flattened?
Message-ID: <423667D7.1010700@Lazarevic.de>



Doing a restore on a Folder seems to flatten the menu(path)!?
My root folder has some children and the menu did show the root and all
the children. Now doing a restore on that folder flattens the menu so
that now only the root is visible. The children are still there, they
just don't get shown in the menu. If I go to one of the children folder
the menu display on that page is correct again (unto root).
It also seems that sometimes children are left out of the menu, eg. the
SW license page. It does not help to remove the Menu Component from the
templates list and to add it back after that.
Confusing...

Alex

PS: This happens with the latest SW1 version from SqueakMap.



From renggli at iam.unibe.ch  Tue Mar 15 07:27:56 2005
From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:27:56 +0100
Subject: Revert seems not to revert page titels
In-Reply-To: <42364FC9.1090403@Lazarevic.de>
References: <42364FC9.1090403@Lazarevic.de>
Message-ID: <8bd1c48e8af912bfc62f5e84de95e8e6@iam.unibe.ch>



Hi Alex,

> Create a SWFolder Foo, edit the text and save. Edit again and change 
> the
> title to Bar and save again. Now go to the history and revert to the
> first version named Foo. After that you get a page not found error on
> Foo. If you now enter manually the former URL for Bar you get a page
> with the original contents of Foo! :()

I could reproduce the problem in VisualWorks. It seems that the first 
version of a folder isn't initialized properly and this breaks if you 
try to revert to this one. I think the easiest fix would be not to show 
version 0 in the history that is not interesting anyway.

Cheers,
Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch



From renggli at iam.unibe.ch  Tue Mar 15 07:40:20 2005
From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 07:40:20 +0100
Subject: Menu flattened?
In-Reply-To: <423667D7.1010700@Lazarevic.de>
References: <423667D7.1010700@Lazarevic.de>
Message-ID: <680fc45477c6b1e28cdaffc548dcb3ae@iam.unibe.ch>



> Doing a restore on a Folder seems to flatten the menu(path)!?
> My root folder has some children and the menu did show the root and all
> the children. Now doing a restore on that folder flattens the menu so
> that now only the root is visible. The children are still there, they
> just don't get shown in the menu. If I go to one of the children folder
> the menu display on that page is correct again (unto root).
> It also seems that sometimes children are left out of the menu, eg. the
> SW license page. It does not help to remove the Menu Component from the
> templates list and to add it back after that.
> Confusing...

I doubt this has anything to do with the menu ...

It is maybe because the model of your restored structures is somehow 
broken, e.g. the parent link is missing. Versioning nested structures 
is a tricky thing, as the needed changes when undo-ing sometimes are 
non-local, this means that several things have to be fixed at different 
places. I thought those problems have been fixed in the past, but 
obviously there are still some left. Maybe you can have a look at your 
Wiki with an inspector and report what exactly is wrong with your 
model?

This doesn't help, but anyway: SmallWiki 2 will provide a different 
mechanism for history. As all the modifications are logged, it will 
provide means to reply them, just like the change-sets in Smalltalk. 
The drawback of this approach is, that the versioning is global to the 
whole wiki, so that it will be impossible to revert just a part of it. 
However it also makes sure that there are no different versions used at 
the same time that make it inconsistent. Systems like Zope use such a 
kind of architecture successfully.

Cheers,
Lukas

-- 
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch



From bergel at iam.unibe.ch  Tue Mar 15 18:02:18 2005
From: bergel at iam.unibe.ch (Alexandre Bergel)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:02:18 +0100
Subject: SmallWiki 1 running headless under OS-X
In-Reply-To: <e5735d961d47713d6ac5c80308b33b64@ulb.ac.be>
References: <e5735d961d47713d6ac5c80308b33b64@ulb.ac.be>
Message-ID: <20050315170218.GN7157@iam.unibe.ch>



Hi Roel!

I tried a similar approach 1 (or 2?) year(s) ago. I bumped into some problem that I couldn't load an headless image that was previously saved.

Apparently this bug went off...

Alexandre

On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 06:11:59PM +0100, Roel Wuyts wrote:
> Hello,
> after some fiddling I managed to run SmallWiki 1 in headless mode with 
> VisualWorks. I added a number of actions (in an extension, of course) 
> to save an image, quit it, save-and-quit it so that I can launch 
> SmallWiki as a daemon when the machine boots, and with the intention to 
> save it when the machine goes down (need to test this further since I 
> do not know whether OS-X will actually wait until my script is finished 
> before killing the headless-VW process, but ok). I added the necessary 
> Mac OS-X config files to do this (configurable and all).
> 
> Are other people in need of this? Is there a good place to put these 
> things? CincomStore maybe? With a description on some SmallWiki page? 
> Maybe other people can chime in and put their 
> configurations/scripts/batch files for other OS-s and Smalltalk 
> versions (or, ahum, maybe it already exists and I overlooked it)?
> 
> 
> --
> Roel Wuyts                                                              
>   DeComp
> roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de 
> Bruxelles
> http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/                                    
> Belgique
> Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org

-- 
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~bergel
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.



From Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be  Wed Mar 16 07:55:57 2005
From: Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be (Roel Wuyts)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:55:57 +0100
Subject: SmallWiki 1 running headless under OS-X
In-Reply-To: <20050315170218.GN7157@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <e5735d961d47713d6ac5c80308b33b64@ulb.ac.be> <20050315170218.GN7157@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <de718bebf1dbba7f667e6808db1b1379@ulb.ac.be>



Don't know whether it fell of or not. I had the same (or similar) 
problem you describe (restoring a saved image either did not work). 
After a lot of fiddling (I could not reproduce the bug in headfull mode 
so debugging was ... interesting ...) I found out that I simply had to 
fork a separate process to do the saving, since triggering it in the 
action did not work (I did not figure out why exactly). Once forked 
(with a semaphor to delay the action), everything works fine.

On 15 Mar 2005, at 18:02, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

> Hi Roel!
>
> I tried a similar approach 1 (or 2?) year(s) ago. I bumped into some 
> problem that I couldn't load an headless image that was previously 
> saved.
>
> Apparently this bug went off...
>
> Alexandre
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 06:11:59PM +0100, Roel Wuyts wrote:
>> Hello,
>> after some fiddling I managed to run SmallWiki 1 in headless mode with
>> VisualWorks. I added a number of actions (in an extension, of course)
>> to save an image, quit it, save-and-quit it so that I can launch
>> SmallWiki as a daemon when the machine boots, and with the intention 
>> to
>> save it when the machine goes down (need to test this further since I
>> do not know whether OS-X will actually wait until my script is 
>> finished
>> before killing the headless-VW process, but ok). I added the necessary
>> Mac OS-X config files to do this (configurable and all).
>>
>> Are other people in need of this? Is there a good place to put these
>> things? CincomStore maybe? With a description on some SmallWiki page?
>> Maybe other people can chime in and put their
>> configurations/scripts/batch files for other OS-s and Smalltalk
>> versions (or, ahum, maybe it already exists and I overlooked it)?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Roel Wuyts
>>   DeComp
>> roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de
>> Bruxelles
>> http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/
>> Belgique
>> Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org
>
> -- 
> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~bergel
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>
>
Roel Wuyts                                                              
   DeComp
roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de 
Bruxelles
http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/                                    
Belgique
Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org



From Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be  Wed Mar 16 08:01:29 2005
From: Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be (Roel Wuyts)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:01:29 +0100
Subject: Poll: what version of Smallwiki-OS-Smallltalk are you using?
Message-ID: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be>



I'd like to do a poll to get an idea about who is using what for 
Smallwiki...
So, here goes:

Roel          Smallwiki 0.9.51          MacOS-X Server          
VisualWorks 7.3NC

--
Roel Wuyts                                                              
   DeComp
roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de 
Bruxelles
http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/                                    
Belgique
Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org



From Alexander at Lazarevic.de  Wed Mar 16 08:25:26 2005
From: Alexander at Lazarevic.de (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Alexander_Lazarevi=E6?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:25:26 +0100
Subject: Poll: what version of Smallwiki-OS-Smallltalk are you using?
In-Reply-To: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be>
References: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be>
Message-ID: <4237DF66.1020403@Lazarevic.de>



Roel		0.9.51	MacOS-X Server	VisualWorks 7.3NC
Squeak.org new	0.9.53	Debian 3.1	Squeak 3.7



From ducasse at iam.unibe.ch  Wed Mar 16 09:22:23 2005
From: ducasse at iam.unibe.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:22:23 +0100
Subject: http://wiki.gorisek.com/WikiDoc/WikiPage
Message-ID: <fa08af6afeb1130dfe6808d920b8fc43@iam.unibe.ch>



http://wiki.gorisek.com/WikiDoc/WikiPage



From Alexander at Lazarevic.de  Wed Mar 16 10:02:08 2005
From: Alexander at Lazarevic.de (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Alexander_Lazarevi=E6?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:02:08 +0100
Subject: http://wiki.gorisek.com/WikiDoc/WikiPage
In-Reply-To: <fa08af6afeb1130dfe6808d920b8fc43@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <fa08af6afeb1130dfe6808d920b8fc43@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <4237F610.2090406@Lazarevic.de>



http://www.pastiche.org/~cmiller/pix/wiki-banned.jpg



From renggli at iam.unibe.ch  Wed Mar 16 19:59:09 2005
From: renggli at iam.unibe.ch (Lukas Renggli)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:59:09 +0100
Subject: Poll: what version of Smallwiki-OS-Smallltalk are you using?
In-Reply-To: <4237DF66.1020403@Lazarevic.de>
References: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be> <4237DF66.1020403@Lazarevic.de>
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> Roel		0.9.51	MacOS-X Server	VisualWorks 7.3NC
> Squeak.org new	0.9.53	Debian 3.1	Squeak 3.7

SCG (kilana.unibe.ch)	0.9.49	SunOS 5.7 UltraSparc	VisualWorks 7.0
ESUG (www.esug.org)	0.9.49	Suse Linux 8.2	VisualWorks 7.2
Seaside (www.seaside.st)	0.9.23	Debian Linux	Squeak 3.7

-- 
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch



From hnbeck at t-online.de  Wed Mar 16 20:18:45 2005
From: hnbeck at t-online.de (Hans N Beck)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:18:45 +0100
Subject: Poll: what version of Smallwiki-OS-Smallltalk are you using?
In-Reply-To: <4a38f3d2a6eac76d33b5ac12b277f61f@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be> <4237DF66.1020403@Lazarevic.de> <4a38f3d2a6eac76d33b5ac12b277f61f@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <eb56a3aa83711b55e06d9c7a1defdd0f@t-online.de>



Hi,

that's my installation:

Win 2K Server Instanz unter VMWare, Squeak 3.6 (www.hans-n-beck.org) 
(8-fach Xeon Server)

Greetings

Hans

Am 16.03.2005 um 19:59 schrieb Lukas Renggli:

>> Roel		0.9.51	MacOS-X Server	VisualWorks 7.3NC
>> Squeak.org new	0.9.53	Debian 3.1	Squeak 3.7
>
> SCG (kilana.unibe.ch)	0.9.49	SunOS 5.7 UltraSparc	VisualWorks 7.0
> ESUG (www.esug.org)	0.9.49	Suse Linux 8.2	VisualWorks 7.2
> Seaside (www.seaside.st)	0.9.23	Debian Linux	Squeak 3.7
>
> -- 
> Lukas Renggli
> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
>



From ducasse at iam.unibe.ch  Wed Mar 16 20:58:03 2005
From: ducasse at iam.unibe.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?=)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:58:03 +0100
Subject: Poll: what version of Smallwiki-OS-Smallltalk are you using?
In-Reply-To: <eb56a3aa83711b55e06d9c7a1defdd0f@t-online.de>
References: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be> <4237DF66.1020403@Lazarevic.de> <4a38f3d2a6eac76d33b5ac12b277f61f@iam.unibe.ch> <eb56a3aa83711b55e06d9c7a1defdd0f@t-online.de>
Message-ID: <dddd5347772e27ef58fc6c641a2dabf1@iam.unibe.ch>



really nice

Stef

On 16 mars 05, at 20:18, Hans N Beck wrote:

> Hi,
>
> that's my installation:
>
> Win 2K Server Instanz unter VMWare, Squeak 3.6 (www.hans-n-beck.org) 
> (8-fach Xeon Server)
>
> Greetings
>
> Hans
>
> Am 16.03.2005 um 19:59 schrieb Lukas Renggli:
>
>>> Roel		0.9.51	MacOS-X Server	VisualWorks 7.3NC
>>> Squeak.org new	0.9.53	Debian 3.1	Squeak 3.7
>>
>> SCG (kilana.unibe.ch)	0.9.49	SunOS 5.7 UltraSparc	VisualWorks 7.0
>> ESUG (www.esug.org)	0.9.49	Suse Linux 8.2	VisualWorks 7.2
>> Seaside (www.seaside.st)	0.9.23	Debian Linux	Squeak 3.7
>>
>> -- 
>> Lukas Renggli
>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
>>
>



From chris at chrisburkert.de  Thu Mar 17 10:43:22 2005
From: chris at chrisburkert.de (Chris Burkert)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:43:22 +0100
Subject: Poll: what version of Smallwiki-OS-Smallltalk are you using?
In-Reply-To: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be>
References: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be>
Message-ID: <4239513A.5090001@chrisburkert.de>



Roel Wuyts wrote:
> I'd like to do a poll to get an idea about who is using what for 
> Smallwiki...

SmallWiki 0.9.53     FreeBSD-5-STABLE     Squeak 3.6

best regards
            Chris Burkert
-- 
http://www.chrisburkert.de/



From charles at datasof.com  Thu Mar 17 14:49:08 2005
From: charles at datasof.com (Charles A. Monteiro)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:49:08 -0500
Subject: Poll: what version of Smallwiki-OS-Smallltalk are you using?
In-Reply-To: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be>
References: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be>
Message-ID: <opsnsbb6qrf3t7b4@charles>



Smallwiki 0.9.51 + modifications
Linux RH 3.0
VisualWorks 7.2.1 NC

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:01:29 +0100, Roel Wuyts <Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be>  
wrote:

> I'd like to do a poll to get an idea about who is using what for  
> Smallwiki...
> So, here goes:
>
> Roel          Smallwiki 0.9.51          MacOS-X Server           
> VisualWorks 7.3NC
>
> --
> Roel Wuyts                                                               
>    DeComp
> roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de  
> Bruxelles
> http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/                                     
> Belgique
> Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org



-- 
Charles A. Monteiro



From cputney at wiresong.ca  Fri Mar 18 04:06:57 2005
From: cputney at wiresong.ca (Colin Putney)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:06:57 -0500
Subject: Poll: what version of Smallwiki-OS-Smallltalk are you using?
In-Reply-To: <4a38f3d2a6eac76d33b5ac12b277f61f@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <7e29f9b6dfc041ce511290dc829e5ed1@ulb.ac.be> <4237DF66.1020403@Lazarevic.de> <4a38f3d2a6eac76d33b5ac12b277f61f@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <a67e22101a01a838a6e2eea9767ea574@wiresong.ca>




On Mar 16, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:

>> Roel		0.9.51	MacOS-X Server	VisualWorks 7.3NC
>> Squeak.org new	0.9.53	Debian 3.1	Squeak 3.7
>
> SCG (kilana.unibe.ch)	0.9.49	SunOS 5.7 UltraSparc	VisualWorks 7.0
> ESUG (www.esug.org)	0.9.49	Suse Linux 8.2	VisualWorks 7.2
> Seaside (www.seaside.st)	0.9.23	Debian Linux	Squeak 3.7

Wiresong		0.9.23	FreeBSD 4.8	Squeak 3.7



From bergel at iam.unibe.ch  Sun Mar 20 19:38:10 2005
From: bergel at iam.unibe.ch (Alexandre Bergel)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 19:38:10 +0100
Subject: SmallWiki 1 running headless under OS-X
In-Reply-To: <de718bebf1dbba7f667e6808db1b1379@ulb.ac.be>
References: <e5735d961d47713d6ac5c80308b33b64@ulb.ac.be> <20050315170218.GN7157@iam.unibe.ch> <de718bebf1dbba7f667e6808db1b1379@ulb.ac.be>
Message-ID: <20050320183810.GF13931@iam.unibe.ch>



Wow...
If I had this ideas a couple of year before, it would have saved me a lot of time...

Alexandre


On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:55:57AM +0100, Roel Wuyts wrote:
> Don't know whether it fell of or not. I had the same (or similar) 
> problem you describe (restoring a saved image either did not work). 
> After a lot of fiddling (I could not reproduce the bug in headfull mode 
> so debugging was ... interesting ...) I found out that I simply had to 
> fork a separate process to do the saving, since triggering it in the 
> action did not work (I did not figure out why exactly). Once forked 
> (with a semaphor to delay the action), everything works fine.
> 
> On 15 Mar 2005, at 18:02, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
> 
> >Hi Roel!
> >
> >I tried a similar approach 1 (or 2?) year(s) ago. I bumped into some 
> >problem that I couldn't load an headless image that was previously 
> >saved.
> >
> >Apparently this bug went off...
> >
> >Alexandre
> >
> >On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 06:11:59PM +0100, Roel Wuyts wrote:
> >>Hello,
> >>after some fiddling I managed to run SmallWiki 1 in headless mode with
> >>VisualWorks. I added a number of actions (in an extension, of course)
> >>to save an image, quit it, save-and-quit it so that I can launch
> >>SmallWiki as a daemon when the machine boots, and with the intention 
> >>to
> >>save it when the machine goes down (need to test this further since I
> >>do not know whether OS-X will actually wait until my script is 
> >>finished
> >>before killing the headless-VW process, but ok). I added the necessary
> >>Mac OS-X config files to do this (configurable and all).
> >>
> >>Are other people in need of this? Is there a good place to put these
> >>things? CincomStore maybe? With a description on some SmallWiki page?
> >>Maybe other people can chime in and put their
> >>configurations/scripts/batch files for other OS-s and Smalltalk
> >>versions (or, ahum, maybe it already exists and I overlooked it)?
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Roel Wuyts
> >>  DeComp
> >>roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de
> >>Bruxelles
> >>http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/
> >>Belgique
> >>Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org
> >
> >-- 
> >_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> >Alexandre Bergel  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~bergel
> >^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
> >
> >
> Roel Wuyts                                                              
>   DeComp
> roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de 
> Bruxelles
> http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/                                    
> Belgique
> Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org
> 

-- 
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~bergel
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.



From Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be  Fri Mar 25 14:14:18 2005
From: Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be (Roel Wuyts)
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:14:18 +0100
Subject: SmallWiki 1 running headless under OS-X
In-Reply-To: <20050320183810.GF13931@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <e5735d961d47713d6ac5c80308b33b64@ulb.ac.be> <20050315170218.GN7157@iam.unibe.ch> <de718bebf1dbba7f667e6808db1b1379@ulb.ac.be> <20050320183810.GF13931@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <5aa5ac5e48cb0b08d1e3b482f5f96dc0@ulb.ac.be>



:-)

I know even managed to start it during OS-X System Startup (running as 
root :-( see my vw-nc question). But at least there is progress :-)

On 20 Mar 2005, at 19:38, Alexandre Bergel wrote:

> Wow...
> If I had this ideas a couple of year before, it would have saved me a 
> lot of time...
>
> Alexandre
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 07:55:57AM +0100, Roel Wuyts wrote:
>> Don't know whether it fell of or not. I had the same (or similar)
>> problem you describe (restoring a saved image either did not work).
>> After a lot of fiddling (I could not reproduce the bug in headfull 
>> mode
>> so debugging was ... interesting ...) I found out that I simply had to
>> fork a separate process to do the saving, since triggering it in the
>> action did not work (I did not figure out why exactly). Once forked
>> (with a semaphor to delay the action), everything works fine.
>>
>> On 15 Mar 2005, at 18:02, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Roel!
>>>
>>> I tried a similar approach 1 (or 2?) year(s) ago. I bumped into some
>>> problem that I couldn't load an headless image that was previously
>>> saved.
>>>
>>> Apparently this bug went off...
>>>
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 06:11:59PM +0100, Roel Wuyts wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> after some fiddling I managed to run SmallWiki 1 in headless mode 
>>>> with
>>>> VisualWorks. I added a number of actions (in an extension, of 
>>>> course)
>>>> to save an image, quit it, save-and-quit it so that I can launch
>>>> SmallWiki as a daemon when the machine boots, and with the intention
>>>> to
>>>> save it when the machine goes down (need to test this further since 
>>>> I
>>>> do not know whether OS-X will actually wait until my script is
>>>> finished
>>>> before killing the headless-VW process, but ok). I added the 
>>>> necessary
>>>> Mac OS-X config files to do this (configurable and all).
>>>>
>>>> Are other people in need of this? Is there a good place to put these
>>>> things? CincomStore maybe? With a description on some SmallWiki 
>>>> page?
>>>> Maybe other people can chime in and put their
>>>> configurations/scripts/batch files for other OS-s and Smalltalk
>>>> versions (or, ahum, maybe it already exists and I overlooked it)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Roel Wuyts
>>>>  DeComp
>>>> roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre 
>>>> de
>>>> Bruxelles
>>>> http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/
>>>> Belgique
>>>> Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~bergel
>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>
>>>
>> Roel Wuyts
>>   DeComp
>> roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de
>> Bruxelles
>> http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/
>> Belgique
>> Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org
>>
>
> -- 
> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
> Alexandre Bergel  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~bergel
> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>
>
Roel Wuyts                                                              
   DeComp
roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de 
Bruxelles
http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/                                    
Belgique
Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org



From Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be  Thu Mar 31 10:17:04 2005
From: Roel.Wuyts at ulb.ac.be (Roel Wuyts)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:17:04 +0200
Subject: Symposium on Wikis
Message-ID: <d9035e946af39cfee95739a55701cd75@ulb.ac.be>



Check this: I guess a paper is in order... at least a demo:

http://snipsnap.org/space/2005+International+Symposium+on+Wikis

--
Roel Wuyts                                                              
   DeComp
roel.wuyts at ulb.ac.be                               Universit? Libre de 
Bruxelles
http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~rowuyts/                                    
Belgique
Vice-President of the European Smalltalk Users Group: www.esug.org



From ducasse at iam.unibe.ch  Thu Mar 31 13:48:24 2005
From: ducasse at iam.unibe.ch (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:48:24 +0200
Subject: problems with saving on Squeak?
Message-ID: <6c073d041584606d8211eed323292258@iam.unibe.ch>



Hi

I would like to know whether the user of the squeak port of SmallWiki 
one
got problems with the snaphost mechanism?

We got some problem with the SmallWiki one we were using for 
squeakfoundation
and I want to know if this is a problem of SmallWiki one or of the 
Squeak Port.

Also if VW users have problems this would be a usefull information for 
us.

Stef



From hnbeck at t-online.de  Thu Mar 31 15:11:36 2005
From: hnbeck at t-online.de (Hans N Beck)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:11:36 +0200
Subject: problems with saving on Squeak?
In-Reply-To: <6c073d041584606d8211eed323292258@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <6c073d041584606d8211eed323292258@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <c5a282a8f7272b8d0e2fc2210817368b@t-online.de>



Hi,

for my Smallwiki running under windows (Squeak 3.6) the snapshot don't 
work at all. I have checked file permissions and settings, but no file 
was created. No virus scanner is running there. So now, I'm storing by 
hand. I don't have done any deeper investigation to this.

Greetings

Hans

Am 31.03.2005 um 13:48 schrieb st?phane ducasse:

> Hi
>
> I would like to know whether the user of the squeak port of SmallWiki 
> one
> got problems with the snaphost mechanism?
>
> We got some problem with the SmallWiki one we were using for 
> squeakfoundation
> and I want to know if this is a problem of SmallWiki one or of the 
> Squeak Port.
>
> Also if VW users have problems this would be a usefull information for 
> us.
>
> Stef
>