From oscar at iam.unibe.ch  Tue May  6 15:56:06 2008
From: oscar at iam.unibe.ch (Oscar Nierstrasz)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 15:56:06 +0200
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Re: Book2/SBE2.tex
In-Reply-To: <cone.1209276865.726591.7628.500@brick.flying-brick.caverock.net.nz>
References: <cone.1209276865.726591.7628.500@brick.flying-brick.caverock.net.nz>
Message-ID: <49220EF5-01A2-452E-B161-32FA5ED73202@iam.unibe.ch>


Fixed.

Sorry for the delay.  SBE was off the radar for a few weeks.

Catching up with pending fixes.

- on


On Apr 27, 2008, at 8:14, viking wrote:

> Need to add a line so that diagrams get brought in for the Versioning
> chapter.
>
> --------------- Patch to $SRC/Book2/SBE2.tex ------------------------
> --- SBE2-00.tex 2008-04-27 18:09:35.000000000 +1200
> +++ SBE2.tex    2008-04-27 18:09:23.000000000 +1200
>        {Compiler/figures/}
>        {Metaprogramming/figures/}
>        {Profiling/figures/}
> +       {Monticello/figures/}
> }
> %=================================================================
> \let\wholebook=\relax
>
> --------------- End of patch to $SRC/Book2/SBE2.tex -----------------
>
> Cheers, you lot. Good work, by the way.
>
> The Viking.
>
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From serge.stinckwich at doesnotunderstand.org  Tue May  6 16:00:40 2008
From: serge.stinckwich at doesnotunderstand.org (Serge Stinckwich)
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 16:00:40 +0200
Subject: [sbe-discussion]  SBE-fr is out
Message-ID: <1ea823c30805060700r42b40974ufce7d3def44c0e24@mail.gmail.com>

The french SBE is out !

http://squeakbyexample.org/fr/

Oscar, can you put link from the english version to the french version.

Thank you.

-- 
Bonjour,

je suis heureux de vous annoncer la sortie du livre "Squeak par
l'exemple", traduction en fran?ais de "Squeak By Example", ?crit par
Andrew P. Black, St?phane Ducasse, Oscar Nierstrasz, Damien Pollet,
Damien Cassou et Marcus Denker.

Squeak est un environnement de d?veloppement moderne et libre issu du
langage de programmation Smalltalk-80. Bien qu'?tant le premier
langage et environnement purement orient? objet, Smalltalk est
toujours sur de nombreux aspects en avance sur ces successeurs par son
environnement enti?rement modifiable ? l'ex?cution et dans lequel tout
est objet.

"Squeak par l'exemple" destin? aux ?tudiants et d?veloppeurs, vous
guidera dans la d?couverte du langage Squeak et de son environnement,
avec l'aide de nombreux exemples et exercices. Ce livre est disponible
sous les termes de la license Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike
3.0 license. Vous pouvez soit t?l?charger gratuitement le fichier pdf,
ou alors vous pouvez acheter une copie du livre sur lulu.com (Vous
pouvez ?galement acheter le fichier pdf sur lulu.com, si vous voulez
faire une contribution ? ce travail).

Pour en savoir plus sur le livre : http://squeakbyexample.org/fr/

Cette traduction a ?t? assur? par : Martial Boniou, Mathieu Chappuis,
Luc Fabresse, Ren? Mages, Nicolas Petton, Alain Plantec, Serge
Stinckwich et Beno?t Tuduri.

"Squeak par l'exemple" est soutenu par l'ESUG, le groupe europ?en des
utilisateurs de Smalltalk.
Pour en apprendre plus sur Smalltalk et l'ESUG, consultez le site
http://www.esug.org/
L'ESUG organise sa 16i?me conf?rence internationale ? Asmterdam du 25
au 29 ao?t 2008 ? Amsterdam : http://www.esug.org/conferences/2008/

Have fun !



--
Serge Stinckwich
http://doesnotunderstand.org/


From oscar at iam.unibe.ch  Wed May  7 19:34:04 2008
From: oscar at iam.unibe.ch (Oscar Nierstrasz)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 19:34:04 +0200
Subject: [sbe-discussion]  Moved SBE testing to SqueakByExample
References: <29F7B216-44D5-4EF4-96C9-C2A805578C77@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <9FEC9DC1-1646-402B-B3E8-DA2DE8639D21@iam.unibe.ch>


This might also be of interest to anyone working on translations ...

- on

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Oscar Nierstrasz <oscar at iam.unibe.ch>
> Date: May 7, 2008 19:32:57 GMT+02:00
> To: sbe at iam.unibe.ch
> Subject: [sbe] Moved SBE testing to SqueakByExample - preparing for  
> new images and OLPC
> Reply-To: sbe at iam.unibe.ch
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have moved the testing stuff to the SBE main project:
>
> http://www.squeaksource.com/SqueakByExample.html
>
> The main SBE README has also been updated as follows:
>
> ...
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Testing
> -------
> Tests are automatically generated from the LaTeX sources.
>
> To run the tests, load the package SBE-Testing from the following
> SqueakSource project, and save the image to the same location as the
> SBE.tex main file.
>
> MCHttpRepository
>     location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/SqueakByExample'
>     user: ''
>     password: ''
>
> Then evaluate the following expression in a workspace:
>
> SBEmain new runTests
>
> This will automatically extract and run the tests in the LaTeX sources
> of the Squeak by Example book.  It will also load the hands-on
> exercises, and check that they are working. (Some tests may also be
> included from the dependent hands-on packages.)
>
> This will parse (using Regex) the SBE.tex to locate the included
> chapter files, parse each chapter file to search for @TEST
> annotations, generate test case classes for each chapter with tests in
> a new category SBE-GeneratedTests, and generate a test method
> (numbered by the line number in the chapter) for each test found.
> (NB: Any old generated tests are removed before new ones are
> generated.) Finally, by sending "runTests", a TestRunner is opened on
> the new category, and all those tests are run.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ...
>
> Test for hands-on chapters can be added by updating the
> SBEmain>>runTests method, and adding tests to the packages for the
> individual chapters.  I have already added some simple tests to check
> that the Quinto and CrossMorpg examples do not crash.  More to be  
> added.
>
> - on
>
> PS: Marcus, I would already be interested to learn if this works for
> the OLPC image.
>
>
>
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From oscar at iam.unibe.ch  Fri May 16 12:52:22 2008
From: oscar at iam.unibe.ch (Oscar Nierstrasz)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 12:52:22 +0200
Subject: [sbe-discussion] New edition of Squeak by Example using dedicated
	image
Message-ID: <D7D56561-A480-4D98-A1EB-4D091D37B657@iam.unibe.ch>


Hi folks,

Several people have complained about being confused when the hands-on  
examples don't work as described in various images.

We have attempted to address this problem by providing our own  
dedicated image, available from SqueakByExample.org.  This image has  
been specially prepared by Damien Cassou, and is a slight variant of  
the final 3.9 squeak-dev image.

(Most of) the figures and exercises have been adapted so they really  
should work exactly as described in the latest revision (2008-05-15).

We would be happy for feedback in case any further errors are found.   
(Please use the discussion list mentioned on the book's web site.)

Thanks to one and all for the very positive feedback so far, and your  
patience with errors and oversights.

Oscar Nierstrasz


From ckasso at sprynet.com  Fri May 16 17:41:56 2008
From: ckasso at sprynet.com (ckasso)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:41:56 -0400
Subject: [sbe-discussion]  errata
Message-ID: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>

Greetings,

I sent some corrections in a while ago that never
made it to the errata list and are still in the
2008-05-15 version.

Page 114
slighlty > slightly

Page 116
While viewing any one of these method, > methods

Page 117
to it as argument, > to it as an argument,

Page 103, 123 and 234
Programatically > Programmatically

Page 124
accesible > accessible

Page 142
the work of a second > a second of work

Pages 38 and 150
the the > the

Page 157
you or some else > you or someone else

Chris


From stephane.ducasse at free.fr  Fri May 16 17:47:49 2008
From: stephane.ducasse at free.fr (stephane ducasse)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 17:47:49 +0200
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Re: errata
In-Reply-To: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
References: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
Message-ID: <E98FA736-3651-4A6F-B229-A141B840E6D5@free.fr>

thanks a lot

stef

On May 16, 2008, at 5:41 PM, ckasso wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I sent some corrections in a while ago that never
> made it to the errata list and are still in the
> 2008-05-15 version.
>
> Page 114
> slighlty > slightly
>
> Page 116
> While viewing any one of these method, > methods
>
> Page 117
> to it as argument, > to it as an argument,
>
> Page 103, 123 and 234
> Programatically > Programmatically
>
> Page 124
> accesible > accessible
>
> Page 142
> the work of a second > a second of work
>
> Pages 38 and 150
> the the > the
>
> Page 157
> you or some else > you or someone else
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sbe-discussion mailing list
> Sbe-discussion at iam.unibe.ch
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/sbe-discussion
>


From damien.cassou at gmail.com  Sat May 17 13:50:04 2008
From: damien.cassou at gmail.com (Damien Cassou)
Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 13:50:04 +0200
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Re: errata
In-Reply-To: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
References: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
Message-ID: <6ac749c10805170450h1fbbc03fm46a018555caa1948@mail.gmail.com>

I'm taking care of them. Thank you very much.

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:41 PM, ckasso <ckasso at sprynet.com> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I sent some corrections in a while ago that never
> made it to the errata list and are still in the
> 2008-05-15 version.
>
> Page 114
> slighlty > slightly
>
> Page 116
> While viewing any one of these method, > methods
>
> Page 117
> to it as argument, > to it as an argument,
>
> Page 103, 123 and 234
> Programatically > Programmatically
>
> Page 124
> accesible > accessible
>
> Page 142
> the work of a second > a second of work
>
> Pages 38 and 150
> the the > the
>
> Page 157
> you or some else > you or someone else
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sbe-discussion mailing list
> Sbe-discussion at iam.unibe.ch
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/sbe-discussion
>



-- 
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ah?: ?I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck?. (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)


From oscar at iam.unibe.ch  Sun May 18 20:01:37 2008
From: oscar at iam.unibe.ch (Oscar Nierstrasz)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 20:01:37 +0200
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Re: errata
In-Reply-To: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
References: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
Message-ID: <B2CEC474-0221-4F0F-BDA0-18EB6BC24B18@iam.unibe.ch>


Oops.  Thanks for pointing this out.

- on

On May 16, 2008, at 5:41 PM, ckasso wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> I sent some corrections in a while ago that never
> made it to the errata list and are still in the
> 2008-05-15 version.
>
> Page 114
> slighlty > slightly
>
> Page 116
> While viewing any one of these method, > methods
>
> Page 117
> to it as argument, > to it as an argument,
>
> Page 103, 123 and 234
> Programatically > Programmatically
>
> Page 124
> accesible > accessible
>
> Page 142
> the work of a second > a second of work
>
> Pages 38 and 150
> the the > the
>
> Page 157
> you or some else > you or someone else
>
> Chris
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sbe-discussion mailing list
> Sbe-discussion at iam.unibe.ch
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/sbe-discussion


From stephane.ducasse at free.fr  Sun May 18 20:31:15 2008
From: stephane.ducasse at free.fr (stephane ducasse)
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 20:31:15 +0200
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Re: errata
In-Reply-To: <B2CEC474-0221-4F0F-BDA0-18EB6BC24B18@iam.unibe.ch>
References: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
	<B2CEC474-0221-4F0F-BDA0-18EB6BC24B18@iam.unibe.ch>
Message-ID: <40055365-E06F-4852-A286-61E919F7A583@free.fr>

this is strange because it seems that the automatic spell-checker of  
mac os x should have identified a lot of
them. So we cannnot rely on it apparently.

stef
On May 18, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

>
> Oops.  Thanks for pointing this out.
>
> - on
>
> On May 16, 2008, at 5:41 PM, ckasso wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I sent some corrections in a while ago that never
>> made it to the errata list and are still in the
>> 2008-05-15 version.
>>
>> Page 114
>> slighlty > slightly
>>
>> Page 116
>> While viewing any one of these method, > methods
>>
>> Page 117
>> to it as argument, > to it as an argument,
>>
>> Page 103, 123 and 234
>> Programatically > Programmatically
>>
>> Page 124
>> accesible > accessible
>>
>> Page 142
>> the work of a second > a second of work
>>
>> Pages 38 and 150
>> the the > the
>>
>> Page 157
>> you or some else > you or someone else
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sbe-discussion mailing list
>> Sbe-discussion at iam.unibe.ch
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/sbe-discussion
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sbe-discussion mailing list
> Sbe-discussion at iam.unibe.ch
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/sbe-discussion
>


From black at cs.pdx.edu  Mon May 19 22:33:25 2008
From: black at cs.pdx.edu (Andrew P. Black)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 13:33:25 -0700
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Re: errata
In-Reply-To: <40055365-E06F-4852-A286-61E919F7A583@free.fr>
References: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
	<B2CEC474-0221-4F0F-BDA0-18EB6BC24B18@iam.unibe.ch>
	<40055365-E06F-4852-A286-61E919F7A583@free.fr>
Message-ID: <D7AB9185-BBC1-4DFA-869E-CFDBB276B329@cs.pdx.edu>


On 18 May 2008, at 11:31, stephane ducasse wrote:

>>> the work of a second > a second of work
>>

This one is not a typo.  It's English!

	Andrew

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From ckasso at sprynet.com  Tue May 20 02:38:12 2008
From: ckasso at sprynet.com (ckasso)
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 20:38:12 -0400
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Re: errata
In-Reply-To: <D7AB9185-BBC1-4DFA-869E-CFDBB276B329@cs.pdx.edu>
References: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
	<B2CEC474-0221-4F0F-BDA0-18EB6BC24B18@iam.unibe.ch>
	<40055365-E06F-4852-A286-61E919F7A583@free.fr>
	<D7AB9185-BBC1-4DFA-869E-CFDBB276B329@cs.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <1211243892.7660.3.camel@creek>

On Mon, 2008-05-19 at 13:33 -0700, Andrew P. Black wrote:
> 
> On 18 May 2008, at 11:31, stephane ducasse wrote:
> 
> > > > the work of a second > a second of work
> > > 
> 
> 
> This one is not a typo.  It's English!
> 
> 
> Andrew
> 

French flavored English.

Chris


From black at cs.pdx.edu  Tue May 20 18:57:35 2008
From: black at cs.pdx.edu (Andrew P. Black)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 09:57:35 -0700
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Re: errata
In-Reply-To: <1211243892.7660.3.camel@creek>
References: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
	<B2CEC474-0221-4F0F-BDA0-18EB6BC24B18@iam.unibe.ch>
	<40055365-E06F-4852-A286-61E919F7A583@free.fr>
	<D7AB9185-BBC1-4DFA-869E-CFDBB276B329@cs.pdx.edu>
	<1211243892.7660.3.camel@creek>
Message-ID: <E13942B4-236D-4FB0-8D90-F65BB92A7FF9@cs.pdx.edu>


On 19 May 2008, at 17:38, ckasso wrote:

>>>>> the work of a second > a second of work
>>>>
>>
>>
>> This one is not a typo.  It's English!
>>
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>
> French flavored English.
>

But of course!  Most English is.

I think that it was Voltaire who, on starting to learn English,  
observed that English was mostly just French, badly pronounced.

	Andrew

Professor Andrew P. Black
Department of Computer Science
Portland State University
+1 503 725 2411



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From victor.palique at gmail.com  Wed May 21 22:34:23 2008
From: victor.palique at gmail.com (Victor Rodriguez)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:34:23 -0400
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Re: errata
In-Reply-To: <E13942B4-236D-4FB0-8D90-F65BB92A7FF9@cs.pdx.edu>
References: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
	<B2CEC474-0221-4F0F-BDA0-18EB6BC24B18@iam.unibe.ch>
	<40055365-E06F-4852-A286-61E919F7A583@free.fr>
	<D7AB9185-BBC1-4DFA-869E-CFDBB276B329@cs.pdx.edu>
	<1211243892.7660.3.camel@creek>
	<E13942B4-236D-4FB0-8D90-F65BB92A7FF9@cs.pdx.edu>
Message-ID: <3bee9c1d0805211334q397552ebhcc208267e4c708f4@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Andrew P. Black <black at cs.pdx.edu> wrote:
...
> But of course!  Most English is.
> I think that it was Voltaire who, on starting to learn English, observed
> that English was mostly just French, badly pronounced.
> Andrew

While in university in the US, I took a latin class.  During the
introduction to the class, the professor clearly stated "English is
not a latin language"..

Saludos,

Victor Rodriguez.

> Professor Andrew P. Black
> Department of Computer Science
> Portland State University
> +1 503 725 2411
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sbe-discussion mailing list
> Sbe-discussion at iam.unibe.ch
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/sbe-discussion
>
>

From stephane.ducasse at free.fr  Wed May 21 22:46:56 2008
From: stephane.ducasse at free.fr (stephane ducasse)
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 22:46:56 +0200
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Re: errata
In-Reply-To: <3bee9c1d0805211334q397552ebhcc208267e4c708f4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1210952516.6190.14.camel@creek>
	<B2CEC474-0221-4F0F-BDA0-18EB6BC24B18@iam.unibe.ch>
	<40055365-E06F-4852-A286-61E919F7A583@free.fr>
	<D7AB9185-BBC1-4DFA-869E-CFDBB276B329@cs.pdx.edu>
	<1211243892.7660.3.camel@creek>
	<E13942B4-236D-4FB0-8D90-F65BB92A7FF9@cs.pdx.edu>
	<3bee9c1d0805211334q397552ebhcc208267e4c708f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1395BC4E-263B-4A2D-A67E-852988458A89@free.fr>

fun I got a lecture from a experienced teacher that told us
	- latin/french + gaelic/german
	he showed us old gaellic texts.
	And I can tell you that if you take university related vocabulary  
they look a lot like french :)

Stef


On May 21, 2008, at 10:34 PM, Victor Rodriguez wrote:

> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Andrew P. Black <black at cs.pdx.edu>  
> wrote:
> ...
>> But of course!  Most English is.
>> I think that it was Voltaire who, on starting to learn English,  
>> observed
>> that English was mostly just French, badly pronounced.
>> Andrew
>
> While in university in the US, I took a latin class.  During the
> introduction to the class, the professor clearly stated "English is
> not a latin language"..
>
> Saludos,
>
> Victor Rodriguez.
>
>> Professor Andrew P. Black
>> Department of Computer Science
>> Portland State University
>> +1 503 725 2411
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sbe-discussion mailing list
>> Sbe-discussion at iam.unibe.ch
>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/sbe-discussion
>>
>>
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From stephane.ducasse at free.fr  Tue May 27 19:11:01 2008
From: stephane.ducasse at free.fr (stephane ducasse)
Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:11:01 +0200
Subject: [sbe-discussion] Fwd: [Etoys] [Squeakland] Etoys documentation in
	Spanish
References: <483C17EF.1040200@javeriana.edu.co>
Message-ID: <1686510A-FCC4-4F8C-A453-1885E5CAB778@free.fr>

:)

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Offray Vladimir Luna C?rdenas <offray.luna at javeriana.edu.co>
> Date: May 27, 2008 4:17:19 PM CEDT
> Cc: squeakland at squeakland.org, etoys <etoys at laptop.org>, squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> Subject: Re: [Etoys] [Squeakland] Etoys documentation in Spanish
>
> Hi all,
>
> st?phane ducasse escribi?:
>> Excellent.
>> I really hope that these kids will really learned a lot!
>> For BotsInc I'm aware of a private spanish translation. I'm still
>> trying to negociate to get the
>> rights for the book.
>>
>
> Please, tell us when you get it back. I'm using your book with my
> students, but having a free/open version would be very helpful.
>
>> For squeakbyexample, I do not know the status of the translation.
>>
>
> We have finished the first chapter and preamble, but until mid-year
> vacations will not be much advances. I will keep you posted in this
> Spanish Squeak related pages in our FLOSS community wiki:
>
> * http://www.el-directorio.org/SqueakMedianteEjemplos  <-- For Squeak
> By Example translation related info.
> * http://www.el-directorio.org/Squeak <-- An intro to Squeak.
> * http://www.el-directorio.org/Squeak/Enlaces <-- Links with
> information about Squeak (education, programming, GUI, etc)
> * http://www.el-directorio.org/CategorySqueak <-- List all the pages  
> in
> the Squeak category: people, blogs, related projects: plopp, croquet  
> and
> so on.
>
> I really hope to have more of the translation in the first days of  
> July.
>
> Cheers,
>
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